Is stepping in the same show as "GDI's" or service frats wrong?

[AKA2D '91]

lol. ohhhhhhhhh...I'm watching for the lightning AGAIN!

For our entertainment pleasure, I'd expect to see the church's Usher Board #1 compete. Remember those? I heard recently that those still exist.

[sigmadiva]

Originally posted by Boom_Quack13
Money? Wow.

My status is worth more than money to me. Those others are not on our level. You mean to tell me that a $100 entrance fee (multiplied by however many orgs are allowed) is worth more than the status of our organizations? They should be trying to get on our level, but we shouldn't be inviting them to the Penthouse suite.

Seeing as that I have been a judge for a step show hosted by your sisters at the University of Houston (Zeta Delta Chapter of DST), I would think they (ZD) would be very interested in the ticket sales ($$$) and entrance fee ($$$) assesed to each group who stepped. That is to say, the money that was raised for the chapter by the step show they hosted.

[sigmadiva]

Originally posted by Boom_Quack13
But the "big picture" as you presented it was all about money, which is sad.

Hosting a step show can be a lot of work for a chapter. I remember from by undergrad days, the KAPsi chapter at Texas A&M hosted a 'Komedy Jam' and the APhiA chapter hosted a 'Miss Black and Gold pagent'. Both were very good fundraisers for each chapter.

I'd rather see us (NPHC) orgs hosting such events because they are popular and we can profit from them. At then end of the day money is green, and I'm sure it would look better in our chapter accounts than someone else's.

If the step team from Rollo's Chicken and Waffle Shack wanna step, let 'em. Because 1) they have to pay to be there and 2) ~somebody~ will actually pay to see them step. As long as all that money is going into your chapter account, don't sweat who steps. If we (NPHC) are as good and elite as we say we are, then it should not be a problem who steps with us or not, since we would blow them away anyway.

[MissMonika]

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Hosting a step show can be a lot of work for a chapter. I remember from by undergrad days, the KAPsi chapter at Texas A&M hosted a 'Komedy Jam' and the APhiA chapter hosted a 'Miss Black and Gold pagent'. Both were very good fundraisers for each chapter.

I'd rather see us (NPHC) orgs hosting such events because they are popular and we can profit from them. At then end of the day money is green, and I'm sure it would look better in our chapter accounts than someone else's.

If the step team from Rollo's Chicken and Waffle Shack wanna step, let 'em. Because 1) they have to pay to be there and 2) ~somebody~ will actually pay to see them step. As long as all that money is going into your chapter account, don't sweat who steps. If we (NPHC) are as good and elite as we say we are, then it should not be a problem who steps with us or not, since we would blow them away anyway.

AMEN and AMEN

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by sigmadiva
If the step team from Rollo's Chicken and Waffle Shack wanna step, let 'em. Because 1) they have to pay to be there and 2) ~somebody~ will actually pay to see them step. As long as all that money is going into your chapter account, don't sweat who steps. If we (NPHC) are as good and elite as we say we are, then it should not be a problem who steps with us or not, since we would blow them away anyway.

Meanwhile, the "art of stepping" and other traditions become a joke. A Saturday Night Live skit. To the point that a lot of people will stop wanting to attend these types of fundraisers if "Ray Ray's Hair Cuttery" will be competing. I've seen the results of people losing interest in stepshows because they were packaged poorly. [As an aside: I started boycotting most stepshows 7 years ago because "they don't step no mo...all they do is dance." It has to be one helluva event and a convincing argument to get my attendance.]

Whatever happened to that "bigger picture" everyone was talking about? Can't it apply to both sides of the discussion?

Now, as was already stated in this thread, a step exhibition is a slightly different dynamic. I still don't want to see Ray Ray's up in there.

[sigmadiva]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Meanwhile, the "art of stepping" and other traditions become a joke. A Saturday Night Live skit. To the point that a lot of people will stop wanting to attend these types of fundraisers if "Ray Ray's Hair Cuttery" will be competing. I've seen the results of people losing interest in stepshows because they were packaged poorly. [As an aside: I started boycotting most stepshows 7 years ago because "they don't step no mo...all they do is dance." It has to be one helluva event and a convincing argument to get my attendance.]

Whatever happened to that "bigger picture" everyone was talking about? Can't it apply to both sides of the discussion?

Now, as was already stated in this thread, a step exhibition is a slightly different dynamic. I still don't want to see Ray Ray's up in there.

Maybe that is the way you see it. Bottom line, people / groups will still step somewhere . I'd much rather have those people / groups pay us (NPHC) than some other org. It was said earlier in this thread that if we (NPHC) host the event, then we can set the rules, so the stepshows we (NPHC) host should never (in theory) become a joke - as long as we (NPHC) are setting the standards.

So, we can set the standards and still make money.

Think of it this way: If you consider Harvard U the best school in the nation, do you think the board of trustees at Harvard are worrying about 'Littletown' Community College offering freshman lit, just like Harvard? I doubt it. Because Harvard has set it's standards and they stick to it. Are people more willing now to go to 'Littletown' Community College than Harvard? Not always. People still want to go to Harvard for the prestige and high standards, if you will.

[bro_strawter]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Spoken like a true, black APO member.

Umm, what exactly is that suppose to mean?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Maybe that is the way you see it. Bottom line, people / groups will still step somewhere . I'd much rather have those people / groups pay us (NPHC) than some other org. It was said earlier in this thread that if we (NPHC) host the event, then we can set the rules, so the stepshows we (NPHC) host should never (in theory) become a joke - as long as we (NPHC) are setting the standards.

So, we can set the standards and still make money.

Think of it this way: If you consider Harvard U the best school in the nation, do you think the board of trustees at Harvard are worrying about 'Littletown' Community College offering freshman lit, just like Harvard? I doubt it. Because Harvard has set it's standards and they stick to it. Are people more willing now to go to 'Littletown' Community College than Harvard? Not always. People still want to go to Harvard for the prestige and high standards, if you will.

Not a good analogy. Let me know when you can think up a better one.

I agree with you about the money aspect, if that's the biggest picture you can see.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by bro_strawter
Umm, what exactly is that suppose to mean?

What do you want it to mean?

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by bro_strawter
Umm, what exactly is that suppose to mean?

You're better than this debate, Frat. Not even worth the effort.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Those of you who do have a "big picture" to see should definitely try to see it. This doesn't mean you HAVE to want to step against GSS or Swing Phi Swing but it means that you will 1) do it anyway because it benefits you and yours or 2) be more diplomatic in your refusal to do so.

Just make sure you don't let the Swings and the GSSs whoop your asses in the competition.

Now we're being more diplomatic in here. I like that, I like that.

I mean, woe be unto a group that lets the Swings or GSS give the NPHC a tail whuppin', 'cause should that ever happen, shame on ya' behind.

OTOH, you are right, you have every right not to participate in a stepshow with non-NPHC groups participating. After all, if you can't take the heat, get outta' the kitchen.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by Senusret I
You're better than this debate, Frat. Not even worth the effort.

I see your point, Frat, but OTOH if Strawter can handle this sista (read: DSTCHAOS) better than I can, more power to him.

Represent, Frat.

*steps out of the thread.....for now*

[sigmadiva]

Not a good analogy. Let me know when you can think up a better one.

Darlin', I don't think I could ever come up with one good enough for you



I agree with you about the money aspect, if that's the biggest picture you can see. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, money is pretty big.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Senusret I
You're better than this debate, Frat. Not even worth the effort.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Darlin', I don't think I could ever come up with one good enough for you

I was teasing. The analogy only sucked a little. I got your point.