Hypothetical Qs - Drugs - Page 4

RU OX Alum · #46 05-25-2010, 07:48 PM

It's not only the intestity of things that makes them illegal, sometimes it's where they come from. MDMA was outlawed because some people were having fun, and that pissed off people that didn't like them.

PrettyBoy · #47 05-25-2010, 07:52 PM

Nah, I wouldn't want to try anything that has a negative effect on my mind. I've tried alcohol, when I was in college, but I never liked the taste of it, so I don't drink at all. I drink coffee on the way to work in the morning, but as long as it has a lot of sugar and cream in it, I like the taste of it.

DrPhil · #48 05-25-2010, 07:53 PM

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Nah, I wouldn't want to try anything that has a negative effect on my mind. I've tried alcohol, when I was in college, but I never like the taste of it, so I don't drink at all. I drink coffee on the way to work in the morning, but as long as it has a lot of sugar and cream in it, I like the taste of it.

If you're going to do something daily, tea and a bottled water are better.

PrettyBoy · #49 05-25-2010, 07:56 PM

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If you're going to do something daily, tea and a bottled water are better.

Good point. I don't like water though. LOL. I do need to start drinking more of it. I drink too much gatorade, and that's nothing but salt.

Drolefille · #50 05-25-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

It's not only the intestity of things that makes them illegal, sometimes it's where they come from. MDMA was outlawed because some people were having fun, and that pissed off people that didn't like them.

Eh I'm not sure it shouldn't be illegal, but it probably doesn't need to be a Schedule I. It has been shown to have some therapeutic use and further tests are essentially impossible with current restrictions. Looks like the medical community put it in schedule III. Similar to cannabis.

Drolefille · #51 05-25-2010, 07:57 PM

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If you're going to do something daily, tea and a bottled water are better.

Mmm chai tea. Caffeine, milk, sugar.... not sure it's so much better

(Herbal tea is not nearly as fun)

Drolefille · #52 05-25-2010, 08:05 PM

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Chai tea (no whipped cream) is tasty but the bolded is why I don't drink it often.

Caffein free herbal teas are fun when you use Agave.

While a Panera chai is a treat, I do well with the tea bags at home too, I'm sure that's just as good.

And no, I'm a black tea girl through and through. Irish breakfast is my favorite. Although I do have a cupboard full of other flavors they're almost all black tea and I drink most of them with milk since I learned to drink tea in Ireland. I've heard some hard core tea peeps think that this is the most heinous thing known to man, but ah well.

I've never used agave, honey or just a sugar cube or two works for me. Ah well, I'm an addict, I admit it.

RU OX Alum · #53 05-25-2010, 08:08 PM

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Eh I'm not sure it shouldn't be illegal, but it probably doesn't need to be a Schedule I. It has been shown to have some therapeutic use and further tests are essentially impossible with current restrictions. Looks like the medical community put it in schedule III. Similar to cannabis.

Why should it (or anything) be illegal?
I have never understood the logic of people who say "such and such should be outlawed."

Seriously trying to understand other opinion, didn't mean that to come across like it did when I re-read it.

Drolefille · #54 05-25-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

Why should it (or anything) be illegal? I have never understood the logic of people who say "such and such should be outlawed." I mean, just because someone doesn't like it doesn't mean it's bad for society.

Well you can assume that drugs are banned simply because 'someone' doesn't like it, or you can do the research yourself. You might still disagree, but I think it's reasonable to restrict the use of drugs, particularly addictive ones. Should all prescription drugs be OTC?

Little32 · #55 05-25-2010, 08:16 PM

See, I am of the mind that folks should be able to do what they please with their own bodies and lives as long as their choices do not infringe upon my right to make choices about how I live my life.

This is where the legality issue comes into play. Declaring something illegal undercuts the far reaching repercussions of someone choosing to become a drug addict (i.e. the attendant crimes that are frequently associated with drug use), implications that might infringe on others' rights to live as they choose. In that respect, I understand why something might need to be illegal, even though I feel that folks should be able to do what they want with themselves, their bodies, and their lives.

Drolefille · #56 05-25-2010, 08:21 PM

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See, I am of the mind that folks should be able to do what they please with their own bodies and lives as long as their choices do not infringe upon my right to make choices about how I live my life.

This is where the legality issue comes into play. Declaring something illegal undercuts the far reaching repercussions of someone choosing to become a drug addict (i.e. the attendant crimes that are frequently associated with drug use), implications that might infringe on others' rights to live as they choose. In that respect, I understand why something might need to be illegal, even though I feel that folks should be able to do what they want with themselves, their bodies, and their lives.

This. Although I do not agree with the current status of every substance on the list, I don't think we should make everything legal either.

33girl · #57 05-25-2010, 10:50 PM

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This. Although I do not agree with the current status of every substance on the list, I don't think we should make everything legal either.

Any faith I had in the government knowing what should be legal or illegal (which wasn't much to begin with) went down the toilet when the heroin use in the midsize city near my hometown went up. Do you know why it went up? Because people couldn't get a hold of Oxycontin - which is a perfectly legal drug. Digest that again - they couldn't get the legal drug, so they substituted the drug which is pretty much considered to be the Big Bad of illegal drugs.

The reasons that the drugs that are illegal, are illegal, are 99% political and have nothing to do with their effects or addictive properties as there are legal drugs that are equally as dangerous.

Pimping this show again, but it really shines a light on a lot of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQlk01sxO_E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrd5x...eature=related

Drolefille · #58 05-25-2010, 11:19 PM

Legal =/= acquirable at your local corner store though, I think some things should be restricted. And I don't think heroin's seen as the big bad evil, it's an opiate just like oxycontin. Were these people with pain problems or addictions, because if they were already addicted to an opiate, switching to the harder stuff doesn't shock me.

It's not like heroin has always been illegal either. It wasn't exactly of great social benefit then.

christiangirl · #59 05-25-2010, 11:19 PM

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I remember having my teeth pulled when I was 12 before I got braces, and they gave me nitrous gas to anesthetize me. I had hallucinations that were so vivid and cool! The teeth were pulled in two sessions, and I couldn't wait to go back and have the second set pulled. That's coming from the girl with absolutely NO pain tolerance!

Are you me? I don't remember much coming off my nitrous high, but I distinctly remember asking me mother (as she ushered me into a wheelchair), "Do they sell this on the street?"

I couldn't wait to come back for the second session.

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The only thing that I consume daily and am addicted to is snark. Take dat! Take dat!

iLaughed.

*raised hand* May I be part of the SSU? Pleeeeassse??

To sum up this thread: "I inhaled. That was the point."

RU OX Alum · #60 05-25-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Well you can assume that drugs are banned simply because 'someone' doesn't like it, or you can do the research yourself. You might still disagree, but I think it's reasonable to restrict the use of drugs, particularly addictive ones. Should all prescription drugs be OTC?

Yeah, well that doesn't answer the question at all does it?

And the only reason MDMA was outlawed is because people didn't like it. It has very small chance of addiction from all the research I've seen. And by itself has killed less people than alcohol, so I really don't see any other reason it's banned.

It was banned because people like to tell other people what to do.

And as to your question, yes probably. No prescription should be witheld from someone based on age, and the pharmacist should have the power to dispense whatever he please to whomever he or she deems fit.