AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL 3

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Originally posted by CrimsonTide4

4. Leah, thank you for covering up the forehead!!

LOL, I AGREE!!!! I just had a chance to look at all the pics and almost didn't recognize her.

[OrangeMoon]

Originally posted by stardusttwin

Tyra still looks like she is auditioning for the Cowardly Lion in the Wiz...her mane may not be orange but its still out there - way too much hair for her head

For now on everytime I see Tyra, these words play in my mind:

Cowardly Lion: (singing) "Say what chu wanna cuzz I'm here to stay, cuzz Imma mean ol' lion."

Cowardly Lion: "My momma used to say ta me, Coup"

Cast in the Wiz: "Coupppppp?

Cowardly Lion:"Dats right Fleatwood Coupdaville."

[1cococookie]

Originally posted by OrangeMoon
For now on everytime I see Tyra, these words play in my mind:

Cowardly Lion: (singing) "Say what chu wanna cuzz I'm here to stay, cuzz Imma mean ol' lion."

Cowardly Lion: "My momma used to say ta me, Coup"

Cast in the Wiz: "Coupppppp?

Cowardly Lion:"Dats right Fleatwood Coupdaville."

I'm mad that u know the words to that song....I wore that record out (yes... as in vinyl) when I was a little girl!! WOOOO...you brought back some memories!

[Neosoulchild]

This article was written by a Latina woman. It was a pretty intersting read, and I wanted to get your opinions of it.

One is more Afro-centric while the other is, well…less. In an attempt at sensitivity I will say that the other is more of an ethnic blend with features that are less definable as African and perhaps more European, Asian or Indian. Finalist Yaya (21), by her own definition and supported by the community standards, is more Afro-centric, due to her classic African bone structure, complexion and hair texture. She is regal and refined, resembling I would imagine Queen Nefertiti in her prime. Finalist Eva (19) is visually more universal. She has large oval doe eyes, button nose, fairer skin tone and silkier hair.

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally posted by Neosoulchild
This article was written by a Latina woman. It was a pretty intersting read, and I wanted to get your opinions of it.

This article was actually written by a Latino man.

It was an interesting read, but it raised no new points to me. We have been discussing this without our community for some time. People that are on the outside looking in (as we know he is on the outside) cannot really say much. I really don't understand the purpose of the article, except to maybe cause another conflict amongst the races and within the African-American community about Eva being selected because she is light-skinned.

Why can't people just accpet the fact that they were two beautiful women that happened to be Black. They deserved to be the last two standing. Why does it have to be broken down to a Black person "had" to win this year? Why must it be rationalized that Eva won only because her skin tone and hair texture is more accpetable to the world?

To refer to Tyra as a "redbone" is a bit lame, out-of-place, and incorrect. Tyra is far from what I would consider "red." In fact, that "fivehead" is VERY Nubian. And, NO, she does NOT "get away with" altering her eye and hair color while still looking "natural." Show me one black person with naturally ORANGE hair and I will respectfully withdraw my comment.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Some little winch on the radio almost ruined it for me. I have been avoiding spoilers and all that since the show began. This morning, the local morning show asked callers about who they thought would win. Well, A little girl called in and said,

"I'm in high school. but I don't think that Eva is going to win because my friend's sister knows someone that goes to Clark At...." That's when I clicked the radio to another station. I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO angry!! I'm thinking, damn, Eva done lost and is back being an ordinary girl. But as the day passed, I thought, even if she is back at Clark already, she has to live normally until the final episode is announced, as not to blow her cover. So I was cool. But I'd be lying if I didn't think that Eva was gonna be cut!!! They just went on and on about Icy Eyes and I was NERVOUS!! But she made it past that. And I know Eva can work a runway, but they just kept talking about how regal YaYa was.

But Eva made it!! I screamed and was overjoyed. She deserved it. Eva Diva did the dayum thang!!!

I have been holding this in for weeks.....a temp in our office is a recent CAU grad and is good friends with Eva's boyfriend. She told me that Eva won (and yes, I was pissed off!!) several weeks ago. She said that Eva is really sweet and down to earth. She also said she thought Eva was planning to return to school in January, but I wonder how that will be possible.

[Neosoulchild]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
This article was actually written by a Latino man.

My bad.

It actually did raise a new point for me. I knew this was an issue we used to divide ourselves, however, I did not know other races had joined in the debate. It may be naive of me, but I didn't think someone of another race would even have the nerve to speak about this issue to other blacks let alone write and article about it. That was the interesting thing to me.

I know whenever I watch the show, I always root for the blacks whether I think they are beautiful or not. This season I did the same, but in all honesty I have to agree with Tyra. The two top girls happened to be black. Not once did I think about Eva being more approachable because she appeared to be mixed, and I definately didn't think she won because of it. I also think that YaYa lost not because of her darker skin tone or her nappy hair but because of her attitude.

[DELTAQTE]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
I honestly don't know why anyone expected Yaya to win once she spit that food out in Japan. That sealed her then and there as definitely not going to be the winner.

A BIG CO SIGN!

When Tyra told her to take a slice of humble pie and she didn't do that I knew it was over as well. Yes we know you have an Ivy League education and were proud of you but damn you don't have to tell us every 5 seconds. We get it!

Interesting that she was wearing that "Respecto" shirt earlier in the season but just HAD to get a little dig in at the end about why she didn't win. Whatever.

As for her being a model, I think she'll get some work but be honest, what agency wants to spend extra money for a model to go to a dermatologist when there's plenty of beautiful women with clear skin? Not many.

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Originally posted by Neosoulchild
It may be naive of me, but I didn't think someone of another race would even have the nerve to speak about this issue to other blacks let alone write and article about it. That was the interesting thing to me.

Not once did I think about Eva being more approachable because she appeared to be mixed, and I definately didn't think she won because of it. I also think that YaYa lost not because of her darker skin tone or her nappy hair but because of her attitude.

I agree. I'm sure his own race has a couple of issues that he can analyze. Even if I could look past that, his theory is gone once you mention some of the newer African American models Tomiko Fraser, Jaunel McKenzie, Ujjwala, Alek Wek, and Lyia Kebede. I didn't like the way he only threw in Roshumba's name in an attempt to say she's the only other dark model besides Naomi and how she gets no attention.

If you think about it, Covergirl already has a "afrocentric" (using the author's words) model Kiara Kubukuru :
I'm sure they had a say in the overall decision and they didn't want a model who was close to what they already had. Considering Covergirl is about makeup and their ads focus on the model's face, I think that was another factor in not choosing Yaya. Her skin did clear up, but she still had some problems.

[sunflower02]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
[B]This article was actually written by a Latino man.

I read the article and was not enlightened but somewhat defensive (though not very). I believe Tyra looks a mess with that red hair and is not getting away with anything. Also, Naomi Campbell either had hazel eyes or wears contacts but she does look nice and if she wanted red hair, then she would look just as crazy as Tyra. All-in-all, whatever "problems" exist in the African-American community needs to be addressed by the African-American community and resolved within the African-American community.

I did e-mail the writer to let him know my viewpoint of his article (I assumed that's why he put his e-mail address at the end).

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally posted by Neosoulchild
My bad.

It actually did raise a new point for me. I knew this was an issue we used to divide ourselves, however, I did not know other races had joined in the debate. It may be naive of me, but I didn't think someone of another race would even have the nerve to speak about this issue to other blacks let alone write and article about it. That was the interesting thing to me.

I know whenever I watch the show, I always root for the blacks whether I think they are beautiful or not. This season I did the same, but in all honesty I have to agree with Tyra. The two top girls happened to be black. Not once did I think about Eva being more approachable because she appeared to be mixed, and I definately didn't think she won because of it. I also think that YaYa lost not because of her darker skin tone or her nappy hair but because of her attitude.

EXACTLY!! I ALWAYS root for the Black person. The way I see it, if I don't no one will. But anyway, I also didn't think of Eva as more approachable. If we look back, Eva was the farthest thing from approachable. YaYa was always "centered" and approachable. Over time, they did change roles and Eva became a better person. I just think that YaYa is competitve and competition got the best of her. Reminds me of April last year. It wasn't sp much that she wanted to be a model, she just wanted to WIN.

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