Hazing creates a sense of unity

[txcutie]

First of all, I go to Baylor as well and I do not believe they have a "bad" Greek system. Granted, there are no houses for neither fraternities nor sororities, but there are pros and cons to having/not having houses. It does promote a more unified campus, but there are always Greek events/parties going on all the time on and off campus that tons of people get involved in. Christmas on 5th Street is a huge tradition sponsored by a local fraternity, and the Homecoming floats are a big deal.

[Tom Earp]

I beleive Baylor is a denominatial school and in many cases, they do not embrace Greek Organizations while others do. A prime example is William-Jewell in KC metro area.

They have had GLOs for many years and Fraternities have had houses and they are in the process of working on a Sorority housing area. So, they are one working with GLOs. Of course while it is much smaller than Baylor, they have a huge % of GLO members of total school population.

As to events sponsored by GLOs, it is a common thing. Many are involved in campus politics, sports, higher than average GPA, and of course, where would Homecoming parades be with out the GLO floats?

Greeks over the years have stepped all over them selves and have left a bad taste on many campuses. But it seems that the GLOs are making a resurgence and are once again growing with the advent of outlawing hazing which caused most of the problems along with to many loud parties with drinking involved.

Many times GLOs have to prove themselves worthy to be accepted by strict schools.

Time will tell!

[Boodleboy322]

Txcutie,

I concur with your statement. I've visited the chapter at Baylor and there are indeed a lot of good things happening out there in light of there not being any houses.

Fraternally,

Boodleboy322

Originally Posted by txcutie

First of all, I go to Baylor as well and I do not believe they have a "bad" Greek system. Granted, there are no houses for neither fraternities nor sororities, but there are pros and cons to having/not having houses. It does promote a more unified campus, but there are always Greek events/parties going on all the time on and off campus that tons of people get involved in. Christmas on 5th Street is a huge tradition sponsored by a local fraternity, and the Homecoming floats are a big deal.

[ICEBATHSAREFUN]

Originally Posted by txcutie

First of all, I go to Baylor as well and I do not believe they have a "bad" Greek system. Granted, there are no houses for neither fraternities nor sororities, but there are pros and cons to having/not having houses. It does promote a more unified campus, but there are always Greek events/parties going on all the time on and off campus that tons of people get involved in. Christmas on 5th Street is a huge tradition sponsored by a local fraternity, and the Homecoming floats are a big deal.

I guess I shouldn't say Baylor has a bad greek system but rather a "different" greek system. Two of my older brothers were greeks at Baylor one an sae and one a phi delt. I've just heard them complain a lot about the way administration treats fraternities. So my knowledge on the matter is based on what they have told me about Baylor's greek system.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by ICEBATHSAREFUN

I guess I shouldn't say Baylor has a bad Greek system but rather a "different" Greek system. Two of my older brothers were Greeks at Baylor one an SAE and one a Phi Delt. I've just heard them complain a lot about the way administration treats fraternities. So my knowledge on the matter is based on what they have told me about Baylor's Greek system.

Very few Greeks, IMVHO and experience, will say great things about their schools administration.

And everyone will vent at something.

And all campus's and Greek systems are going to be different in some form or another.
May campus was very different; our houses were part of the housing system. The Greek groups had exclusive use agreements with the school.
We paid dorm fees and had campus kitchens.

[IBelieve1897]

My fraternity defines hazing as "any physical or mental stress" pledging sucked, hell week was hell, but we all came closer together, there is a certain line between acceptable and unacceptable hazing most just choose not to use the word hazing when they describe what they went through while pledging out of respect.

[RushLeader08]

my sorority hazes but not anything really bad. the worst was when we had a makeout scavenger hunt. we drew names and i had to kiss one of teh sisters boyfriend!! i made sure that when i did it he was so drunk he did not remember.
my pc was closer because we had to plan extreme ways to make out with some of these boys and we spent alot of time on it.

[nittanyalum]

^^^you just can't stay away, can you?

[RushLeader08]

i am just waiting for advice. greekchat is really useful!

[icelandelf]

Originally Posted by RushLeader08

i am just waiting for advice. greekchat is really useful!

Advice on what? How to be a troll? Honey, you've got that nailed.

[SWTXBelle]

[RushLeader08]

icelandelf i am not a troll i think we established that already! i ment advice on my rho gamma stuff. you can go look at that page and see that i am not a troll or dity.

[RushLeader08]

also just because my sorority "hazed" which wasnt even really hazing it was fun you dont have to think we are all trolls!!

[icelandelf]

Originally Posted by RushLeader08

icelandelf i am not a troll i think we established that already! i ment advice on my rho gamma stuff. you can go look at that page and see that i am not a troll or dity.

No, madame, we most certainly have not established any such thing. You have represented yourself as a troll and nothing less. My goodness, I CRINGE in your HAWTNESS

[Niats 174]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Are many people killed during basic training?

actually it is quite possible. the whole point of basic training, and pledging for that matter, is to push you to your absolute boundaries....and then some.