Once you accept a bid...

[AnchorAlumna]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

Do any schools still wait until the next semester to initiate?

Tennessee Tech is another

Usually the campus administration dictates the length of the new member period. Most NPCs have moved to a shortened time, roughly 6 to 8 weeks. Unless, of course, the campus dictates otherwise.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by AXOrushadvisor

Have her give it a chance. My guess is there are some girls like her in the house. In the end if it is not a good fit she can try again next year, but that is hard. Single preferencing is tough because at a lot of campuses it is not seen as totaly participating which can limit your options. I think she did the right thing. She can not COB this year and has to wait until 1 year from when she got the bid.

You must have missed the update - the daughter in question was recently initiated and things are getting better for her in the chapter. She's hoping that things will continue to get better.


ETA: Pawn it's great that your daughter is giving it a shot. It seems you've done well to stress to her that she'll get out what she puts into any organization. I'll wish her luck - hopefully it just keeps getting better!

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by AnchorAlumna

Tennessee Tech is another

Usually the campus administration dictates the length of the new member period. Most NPCs have moved to a shortened time, roughly 6 to 8 weeks. Unless, of course, the campus dictates otherwise.

Ole Miss (since recruitment is so late, it ends up being the next semester.)

[KillarneyRose]

A related question: what if the OP's daughter received a bid but didn't accept it? Would she be allowed to participate in informal rush? Although I suppose a lot of bridges may have been burned?

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by KillarneyRose

A related question: what if the OP's daughter received a bid but didn't accept it? Would she be allowed to participate in informal rush? Although I suppose a lot of bridges may have been burned?

No. By signing her bid card, she was saying she would accept whatever bid she got. If she declined the bid she would not be able to participate in COB, no matter the circumstance you can come up with.

[DubaiSis]

Except changing schools, which invalids MRABA. NOT that I'm advocating that as a reasonable alternative.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

An interesting question I don't think I've seen answered:

Patty PNM gets a bid and doesn't accept it. A few weeks later, the chapter announces that they are closing, and releases their NM's to go pledge elsewhere. Patty PNM is now released from her MRABA, too, right?

[HQWest]

Nope - pledges of XYZ are offered chance to initiate and go alum early or drop and be eligible for COB the following semester.
Patti PNM said she would accept her bid and didn't, she has to wait until the next formal recruitment

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by HQWest

Nope - pledges of XYZ are offered chance to initiate and go alum early or drop and be eligible for COB the following semester.
Patti PNM said she would accept her bid and didn't, she has to wait until the next formal recruitment

Oh, interesting. Wouldn't the existing pledges be allowed to COB immediately, if there were other groups that wanted to pick them up?

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Oh, interesting. Wouldn't the existing pledges be allowed to COB immediately, if there were other groups that wanted to pick them up?

I suppose they could if the decision to close happened right after recruitment, but then they would be going to another chapter that did not make total with recruitment? And they would be joining and be the new girl nobody knows right around when most have already picked a little?
They would have more options if they wait until the end of the semester.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by HQWest

I suppose they could if the decision to close happened right after recruitment, but then they would be going to another chapter that did not make total with recruitment? And they would be joining and be the new girl nobody knows right around when most have already picked a little?
They would have more options if they wait until the end of the semester.

Well, on some campuses, COB is truly continuous.

[HQWest]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Well, on some campuses, COB is truly continuous.

Yeah but if the PNM had at some point picked the closing house over another or if she had gotten cut from those other houses - she might not be so excited to jump back into the Frey.

[DubaiSis]

Thankfully chapter closures are becoming pretty rare (and probably risk management more than low numbers), so not the concern it might have been pre-RFM. But hopefully the girl who pledged the struggling chapter would be welcomed by some other chapter. I'd love to see panhel opening quota additions for the other chapters to invite those few girls who were on their list but not quite high enough to make the cut. We've discussed over and over again that most girls who get cut weren't cut because they weren't liked; they just weren't liked ENOUGH. And at a school where quota is 50 and the closing chapter got 10 girls, most if not all of those 10 girls were probably somewhere reasonably high on plenty of other chapters' lists. And the girl who bailed on her MRABA, as far as I'm concerned, she can suck it and wait for next year. But that's where I think you should suffer your consequences. The girl who swallowed hard and accepted that bid should be rewarded with a second chance. The girl who didn't take the only option she had shouldn't get the same reward.

But I don't think any of that applies to real life. But who knows? Maybe by discussing it here it will occur to a panhellenic when faced with this problem to take care of those girls who are in a tough situation due to no fault of their own.

[Titchou]

This is what the MOI (Green Book) says:

If through the primary recruitment process a potential member accepts a bid and then has her pledge broken by an NPC fraternity or breaks her pledge, then she is ineligible to be pledged to another NPC fraternity on the same campus until the beginning of the next year’s primary membership recruitment period.

So, it appears that none of the women who were extended bids should be available to pledge another group. It is a UA so it would take - I would think - agreement of all the groups to allow any of them - formally pledged or not - to be released to another group.

But I didn't find anything that applies to a chapter that closed.

[HQWest]

From pat experience, It wasup to the closing chapter then to release them from their pledge - then they could be open to cOB