Consequences for Recruitment Infractions

[Zillini]

I agree monetary fines aren't a deterient when a chapter is blessed with financially well off alums who are willing to pay it or their members can afford to budget for them through dues. Social probation is a huge deterient, but because it is so extreme it should be used only for the worst and/or repeat offenders IMO.

Our campus has primarily gone to community service hours. New members are specifically banned from being the ones to do them since they were not responsible for the infractions. This requires someone in Panhellenic to work/follow up with the org that is being helped and make sure that's actually who has done the work.

Years ago a chapter was placed on social probation due to some major Recruitment Infractions, though I never heard whether it was from the University or their I/natl (and I know it was kicked up to their I/natl). In addition they were required to send their (previous) Recruitment Team to make a presentation at a spring Panhellenic Recruitment Advisor and Officer meeting. It wasn't quite so much an apology as a "This is what we learned from our mistakes and why you shouldn't do what we did." sort of thing. I thought it was an effective learning experience for both those who presented and those who heard it.

[33girl]

The thing w/ social probation is that you have to get the fraternities on board with it too. I mean, if all the members of dirty rushing XYZ are smoking hot babes and the fraternities are frothing at the mouth to mix with them, they're not going to pay attention to any Panhel restrictions - they're going to say to XYZ "let's have an under the table mixer/you can all come over to the house at such & such time."

[elleyk5187]

this kind of has to deal with this. do any of you happen to have chapters that feel threatened by your specific chapter and go out of their way to find ANYTHING that they feel is dirty rushing? for example, a girl in my house knew someone from high school and the house that felt threatened by us saw a wall post & reported it to panhellenic. she ended up printing off her entire wall history with the PNM and showed it to the director. it's one thing to see it and report it, but another thing to go searching to try and find a way to get us in trouble.

what about PNMs "dirty rushing" you? a lot of us have noticed that girls who know they will be participating in recruitment tend to flock to us because they know we're part of a GLO. it's very hard to deal with because we don't want to come off as rude, snotty, stuck up, etc. but then again we also don't want to get our house in trouble. one of my friends had a girl calling her off the hook and she tried to be nice to her multiple times & finally said "look, i can't talk to you because i could get my house in trouble."

i was dirty rushed by a house and instead of helping them "omgosh everyone in my house LOVES you" it ultimately hurt them because it made me feel uncomfortable.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by elleyk5187

what about PNMs "dirty rushing" you? a lot of us have noticed that girls who know they will be participating in recruitment tend to flock to us because they know we're part of a GLO. it's very hard to deal with because we don't want to come off as rude, snotty, stuck up, etc. but then again we also don't want to get our house in trouble. one of my friends had a girl calling her off the hook and she tried to be nice to her multiple times & finally said "look, i can't talk to you because i could get my house in trouble."

That is really all you can do. If the PNM is too dense to get it, then they might not be a very good candidate for membership in the first place.

[MaggieXi]

About 10 yrs ago on my alma matre a group who was notorious for dirty rushing got caught, red handed by Rho Chis and 2 Panhellenic VPs -- for giving alcohol to PNMs at a local bar (yes out in public!) during the silence period. The offending members denied it, until one of the staffers from the bar (who was in a fraternity) brought the security camera tape over that showed them doing this.

There was a hearing held on the judicial board - the offending members, GLO President and advisors were present. Even with the tape showing the members actually purchasing the alcohol and handing them to the PNMs - they denied it. Said that they didn't know the PNMs were rushing (even though one of the PNMs was the bio sister of a current member). The PNMs had registered and were listed on the PNM lists distributed to each sorority. That excuse didn't work in the least.

Because the sorority members violated recruitment rules AND provided alcohol to minors they were ordered to perform more community service hours (on top of their required hours). The new members could not be involved in performing the extra service hours because they had not been the offending sisters. They also were required to organize and pay for an all greek speaker for the following semester. And the GLOs name was basically mud into the following year - which the following recruitment they did not make qouta, which was the first time in 10+ years.

And actually the PNMs got in trouble too - They had met with their Rho Chi, they knew the rules, they signed the rules, they knew that accepting gifts, including alcohol violated recruitment policies AND their Rho Chis were at the bar that night and yet they still participated in the violation. I think they got a slap on the wrist when the events occured. However all the GLOs knew the PNMs names and I think most went bidless or withdrew. The only one I know for sure was the offending Glos legacy (bio sister) who ended up getting a bid to the offending Glo.

[norcal aephi]

I believe that my collegiate Panhellenic had monetary consequences for recruitment fines, and once the total monetary amount reached a certain amount, they were unable to participate in events that would give them points for Greek Awards such as one sport in ISS (Inter-Sorority Sports), an event for Greek Week, etc., depending on the amount. Greek Awards was a big deal--especially as a topic to talk about for the next year's recruitment--that women were [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']conscientious about not impacting their chapter's chances at Greek Awards, that infractions looked down upon greatly even within chapters. [/FONT]