Interesting & Civil discussion re: slavery from Greek Life is HERE

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah because only Obama supporters wouldn't find "jewskin" the least bit tongue in cheek as a response to an old money jab.

He could have used a better example....sure. I guess if you don't understand the meaning behind "jewskin" it could be taken the wrong way.

If you take it within the context it was used I don't find it "racist", that's all.

Nittanyalum......I'm not being a jerk.....and I'm not shallow. Stuff like that obviously doesn't offend me or get to me like it does others. I understand why it was said.

I wish phikapskulls would come back. This thread was fun.

[nittanyalum]

Mac, come on, you know he used that specific term just to be obnoxious. I highly doubt he really has the historical context himself to in any way support using that word. I appreciate that you tried to diffuse it, but I think you also grasp the reality that there really is no need to use that term in standard discourse. He was most certainly just being a jerk and I wouldn't typically lump you in with his empty crassness, but you got lumped because you defended him. Water seeks its own level and beware, that guy portrays himself as a very shallow pool.

[Low C Sharp]

Hundreds of years ago people made things out of the skin of persecuted Jews

Try 65 years ago. Also their body fat, hair, and teeth. But I should just relax when people make light of this; it's only my immediate family, after all.
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[33girl]

Originally Posted by macallan25

He could have used a better example....sure.

If he wanted to convey super old things = elitist, he could have said "made out of dinosaur skin" and not offended anyone. But the fact that "jewskin" is the first thing he thought of....well, you know.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

Try 65 years ago. Also their body fat, hair, and teeth. But I should just relax when people make light of this; it's only my immediate family, after all.

Didn't know that. Took a year long seminar on the Holocaust and the history of Jews. I am definitely aware of the use of hair, fat, and teeth.......didn't know the use of the skin was common practice at that point in time.

I understand you being upset and I am sorry. I was simply saying that I don't think he should have been immediately labeled a racist for using that example.....although it was probably a bad choice.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Mac, come on, you know he used that specific term just to be obnoxious. I highly doubt he really has the historical context himself to in any way support using that word. I appreciate that you tried to diffuse it, but I think you also grasp the reality that there really is no need to use that term in standard discourse. He was most certainly just being a jerk and I wouldn't typically lump you in with his empty crassness, but you got lumped because you defended him. Water seeks its own level and beware, that guy portrays himself as a very shallow pool.

I understand. Thanks.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Holy shit you people are sensitive. He wasn't being freaking racist......you people sound like a bunch of prancing nancy Obama supporters.

I AM an Obama supporter, so if you're trying to insult me, try something else.

[Little32]

Yes, and the Nazi's used their skin for lamps among other things.

I think what people find problematic is that his mind went there in the first place.

If that is the first place that your mind goes (just like Mel Gibson with his anti-semetic harangue and Michael Richards with his racist tirade), that is problematic and you might really want to interrogate your ideas because such statements are callous and racist or anti-semetic (especially when said in jest, as though the persecution and torture of others could ever be funny), whether that was the intent or not.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by Little32

I think what people find problematic is that his mind went there in the first place.

If that is the first place that your mind goes (just like Mel Gibson with his anti-semetic harangue and Michael Richards with his racist tirade), that is problematic and you might really want to interrogate your ideas because such statements are callous and racist or anti-semetic (especially when said in jest, as though the persecution and torture of others could ever be funny), whether that was the intent or not.

Exactly.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by violetpretty

I AM an Obama supporter, so if you're trying to insult me, try something else.

I was kidding. If I wanted to insult you I probably would have singled you out. I didn't.

Good Lord.

There are plenty of Obama supporters that love to call people racists for very silly reasons. I live in Austin.....the most liberal city on the planet......I see it all the time.

[DSTCHAOS]

Is that really an "Obama supporter" thing, though?

Of course not.

[alum]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I live in Austin.....the most liberal city on the planet......I see it all the time.

Unfortunately I can think of a lot of cities that are way more liberal than Austin.

[SWTXBelle]

He meant Planet Texas, of course.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by alum

Unfortunately I can think of a lot of cities that are way more liberal than Austin.

I was being facetious.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Is that really an "Obama supporter" thing, though?

Of course not.

I wouldn't have said it if I didn't have a valid reason to. This has been made light of, although not necessarily in a serious manner......usually jokingly.