MLK Party at Tarleton State - Page 3

Kevin · #31 01-25-2007, 05:06 PM

A lot of chapters on a lot of campuses have these kinds of parties. I can't believe some of you haven't seen them before. I'm not even sure this belongs in risk management because there's no "risk" to these parties which is any different from any other party which is thrown.

DSTCHAOS · #32 01-25-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

A lot of chapters on a lot of campuses have these kinds of parties. I can't believe some of you haven't seen them before. I'm not even sure this belongs in risk management because there's no "risk" to these parties which is any different from any other party which is thrown.

Hmmmm....

I beg to differ. There's a "risk" of perpetuating dumbassness and tainting what should be an enlightening college experience. I guess we need for angry naysayers to come in a whoop some ass at these parties or for drunk frat guys to commit hate crimes while dressed as Aunt Jemima for there to be "risk."

ETA: Anything that can jeopardize an organization's standing constitutes "risk management." That includes hazing and throwing offensively themed parties.

macallan25 · #33 01-25-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

A lot of chapters on a lot of campuses have these kinds of parties. I can't believe some of you haven't seen them before. I'm not even sure this belongs in risk management because there's no "risk" to these parties which is any different from any other party which is thrown.

I see these kinds of parties all of the time........from plenty of groups other than just predominately white fraternities.

DSTCHAOS · #34 01-25-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I see these kinds of parties all of the time........from plenty of groups other than just predominately white fraternities.

Call them out so we can roast them too.

macallan25 · #35 01-25-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Hmmmm....

I beg to differ. There's a "risk" of perpetuating dumbassness and tainting what should be an enlightening college experience. I guess we need for angry naysayers to come in a whoop some ass at these parties or for drunk frat guys to commit hate crimes while dressed as Aunt Jemima for there to be "risk."

For the record....i've seen two black fraternities two different times having "lets make fun of fratty white guys and their lifestyle parties." I think its quite hilarious...........though I would never cause a huge hoopla over it. If they want to throw on some Brooks Brothers, short shorts, and loafers.....drink scotch and listen to the grateful dead......more power to them. I could give two shits.

These guys threw on hoodies, dranks 40s, and ate fried chicken.......its not like they dressed up like the KKK and burned crosses. I could go to a white trash trailor park and probobly see pretty much the exact same things as what are in those pictures.

Kevin · #36 01-25-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I see these kinds of parties all of the time........from plenty of groups other than just predominately white fraternities.

Yeah, when I was in undergrad, these were pretty common. There's a lot of PC posturing going on right now.

DSTCHAOS · #37 01-25-2007, 05:18 PM

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For the record....i've seen two black fraternities two different times having "lets make fun of fratty white guys and their lifestyle parties."

If this is a FACT then they are idiots. If this can be PROVEN then they should be chastised and disciplined.

If you are just ASSUMING this theme because you saw Kappas with popped collars and loafers on, then you're in for a debate.

Any questions?

DSTCHAOS · #38 01-25-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

These guys threw on hoodies, dranks 40s, and ate fried chicken.......its not like they dressed up like the KKK and burned crosses.

You HAVE to be kidding me. Don't act like you aren't familiar with the stereotypes of blacks and think this is all mere coincidence. For an MLK party, too? This logic is why we'll keep seeing idiots throw parties like this.

dzandiloo · #39 01-25-2007, 05:58 PM

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The issue is not whether is was fraternity sactioned or not, on public property or not, at a public or private institution. The issue is that its 2007, and people still think its appropriate and in good taste to have a party theme that ridicules and demeans another group of people.

I don't disagree with you-the fact that this sort of thing keeps happening is appalling - first because they had the party in the first place, and second that they failed to exercise the judgment NOT to post it on the internet. I'm ashamed that it happened at my alma mater.

I only mentioned that in my opinion, it was not sanctioned by the fraternity, because of my personal experience with this chapter, and felt it was relevant to this discussion (by virtue of the fact that we are discussing it on Greekchat). Please don't interpret my comments to be making any excuses or saying "it's OK since it wasn't a sanctioned event." It absolutely isn't OK.

Elephant Walk · #40 01-25-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

If this is a FACT then they are idiots. If this can be PROVEN then they should be chastised and disciplined.

If you are just ASSUMING this theme because you saw Kappas with popped collars and loafers on, then you're in for a debate.

Any questions?

No, they shouldn't be chastised and disciplined.

It's not a big deal. If they want to finally dress nicely, I'm all for it. That'd be great!

starang21 · #41 01-25-2007, 06:50 PM

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So apparently now if you have a party that offends someone in what I am assuming is a private home, not a University residence, not affiliated with a University or fraternity house, and not taking place in any kind of public area, then you get your photos splashed all over the National News Media and your name slandered by your University?

HOOORAAYYY!!

there's been slander for way worse than this. they're just as entitled to dress in this fashion as the news media is to splash their picture all over the papers

shinerbock · #42 01-25-2007, 06:52 PM

Who really cares anymore. I mean, if you're offended, be offended. Stereotypes are real, and there is a degree of truth to them. These are just some stupid kids having fun. Obviously they find things enjoyable about stereotypical black culture or else they wouldn't have a party for it. I mean, dressing up is pretty lame, but a lot of people drink corona and eat mexican on cinco de mayo. If we had a white holiday, yall could get drunk listening to Huey Lewis and go play golf. I know its different with black people because the history is distinct, but when people have white trash dress up parties, I don't think "they're making fun of me." I'm not really defending them, I don't really care. However, I think its good for people to realize that just because they're making fun of a group of people composed of your race, doesn't mean they're making fun of the race itself. I just wish this crap wouldn't end up on drudge report every time it happens.

Tom Earp · #43 01-25-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Yeah, when I was in undergrad, these were pretty common. There's a lot of PC posturing going on right now.

Amazing that was not quoted before me!

But, You do it better!!!!!!!

LPIDelta · #44 01-25-2007, 06:57 PM

The point is why do it all--there are other themes, there are other things you can celebrate. Why is it necessary for anyone to make fun of anyone? Its not--these are young adults, they do know better, and this is just plain stupid.

As far as saying that other cultures do it so it should be ok for us to do it--I know its cliched but "stupid is as stupid does."

Tom Earp · #45 01-25-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Who really cares anymore. I mean, if you're offended, be offended. Stereotypes are real, and there is a degree of truth to them. These are just some stupid kids having fun. Obviously they find things enjoyable about stereotypical black culture or else they wouldn't have a party for it. I mean, dressing up is pretty lame, but a lot of people drink corona and eat mexican on cinco de mayo. If we had a white holiday, yall could get drunk listening to Huey Lewis and go play golf. I know its different with black people because the history is distinct, but when people have white trash dress up parties, I don't think "they're making fun of me." I'm not really defending them, I don't really care. However, I think its good for people to realize that just because they're making fun of a group of people composed of your race, doesn't mean they're making fun of the race itself. I just wish this crap wouldn't end up on drudge report every time it happens.

Oh, My!

You are a heretic according to PCness!

How can you even think about saying something like this?