Initation

[BigCityStripper]

Ok, killer, lets cut to the chase. The REAL reason you quit is the following...

Originally posted by GreekSupporter
And I joined because I was promised help with classes which I got none...I just didn't like it at all. The house smelled like feet, there were no chicks, and the guys there were total douchebags so I moved out before Initation...lucky for me

This is the EXCUSE you gave...

Originally posted by Greek SupporterBut I had two tests on the last week of iniation, and since we only had one week of class before we were busier than hell...I had to quit like three days before activation. I needed to study for my tests, did I do the right thing?

So, this is what I think happened. You'd decided that you want to pursue this IP law degree and going through rush you were like, "Hey, An Engineering and Science geared social Fraternity, that will look GREAT on my resume!" (and I'm not blaming you man, if that was my cup of tea I would come to the same conclusion). So you joined, and surprise, surprise, the social aspect is somewhat lacking compared to the true social fraternities. Chances are, you had buddies that joined the social frats and you saw them having a blast. You began to question your decision, thinking that you shoudln't have sacrificed a great social scene for a resume builder. It was at this point you started to look for an excuse to drop out, and VOILA, finals gave you just that excuse.

Nothing upsets me more than guys who use grades as an excuse to quit Greek Life. I graduated with a 3+ GPA and was active in a variety of other organizations besides my fratenrity. I had numerous brothers who were constant 4.0 performers and went on to law school and med school at Harvard and Yale(not trying to bring up that damn 'elite' argument again, but y'all get my drift). So I'm callin BS on the academic reasons for quitting.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Plus, many people do something completely different for their Pre-Law BS or BA. There was a girl who was Pre-Law who was getting a BA in Music Non-comp. He could very well be a Science major for his BS.

I got a bachelor of music and then went on to law school. Since law schools don't much care what you major in, the advice will frequently be given to major in something you really enjoy -- you're likely to make better grades, which will help you get in law school.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
I got a bachelor of music and then went on to law school. Since law schools don't much care what you major in, the advice will frequently be given to major in something you really enjoy -- you're likely to make better grades, which will help you get in law school.

Also why Elle Woods was able to go to Harvard Law with a BS in Fashion. Ok, now I'm being silly, but you get the point.

[Kevin]

I don't know enough about the guy to come to a conlcusion as to what his intentions were/are. I don't think it's fair to assume a lot of stuff that you don't know for sure, then proceed to indict someone based on those assumptions. Unless you live in Durham County, I'm not sure where some of ya'll pick that up.

What I get is that he's actually interested in going back through Rush. A good friend of mine (fellow founding member) quit one of the more established fraternities on our campus primarily due to the severe hazing, and in part due to the fact that the house was probably a health hazard. He ended up being President of our chapter (he was President of his pledge class before he quit).

Sometimes people have legitimate reasons for dropping. The bottom line is that he didn't enjoy his experience. I don't want anyone in my fraternity who isn't enjoying the overall experience. There is no guarantee that anyone will have a good time all the time in whatever chapter they are in. In fact, such an expectation isn't realistic.

At any rate, I wish him luck on trying to find a new home.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Also why Elle Woods was able to go to Harvard Law with a BS in Fashion. Ok, now I'm being silly, but you get the point.

Well, of course, Elle did "feel comfortable using legal jargon in everyday life."

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
Well, of course, Elle did "feel comfortable using legal jargon in everyday life."

And she had a 4.0 and got an "A" in History of Polka-dots. She was one smart chick. Although I think getting a 4.0 in any major at UCLA is pretty darn good.

[GreekSupporter]

Actually I was told not to study durring initation three times durring the three week initation process...I do think you can get good grades and be greek which is why an a supporter of greek life. So don't call BS on something you don't know jack about.

YOU CAN'T HATE SOMEONE WHO'S STORY YOU DO NOT KNOW

[Kevin]

Originally posted by GreekSupporter
Actually I was told not to study durring initation three times durring the three week initation process...I do think you can get good grades and be greek which is why an a supporter of greek life. So don't call BS on something you don't know jack about.

YOU CAN'T HATE SOMEONE WHO'S STORY YOU DO NOT KNOW

I agree.

[GreekSupporter]

Yeah I mean I can take a lot, but when I rushed that place and they told me that they won't prevent me from studying and for three weeks they tell me to lay off the books when I have two tests in less than a week, that's where I draw the line

[Kevin]

Originally posted by GreekSupporter
Yeah I mean I can take a lot, but when I rushed that place and they told me that they won't prevent me from studying and for three weeks they tell me to lay off the books when I have two tests in less than a week, that's where I draw the line

You did the right thing. I know that in general, or at least according to my experience, Triangle has always been known to be one of the most if not THE most studious house wherever they are.

[GreekSupporter]

Yeah thanks man, I am looking to maybe join another one...and I've told all the rush chairs my expierences and asked them would they let me study and they all said that yeah they'd cut me some slack... is that b.s.?

[Kevin]

Originally posted by GreekSupporter
Yeah thanks man, I am looking to maybe join another one...and I've told all the rush chairs my expierences and asked them would they let me study and they all said that yeah they'd cut me some slack... is that b.s.?

Generally speaking, yes. Rush chairs have one mission in life -- to recruit as many guys as possible who will 'fit in' with their chapter. In many cases, unfortunately, they will use whatever B.S. line to hook you in.

If I were you, I'd go to the Greek Life advisor and look at the numbers -- what houses have the highest GPA? You might want to start with those guys first. Also look into whether or not they have required study time for their new associates -- a lot will. Honesty is your best policy, even if you're not likely to receive it back. Just do your research and realize that Rush chairs are probably your single worst source of information.

[ilikehazing]

Our pledging took quite a bit longer than that, and our initiation week was a week.

[sdbeta1]

Originally posted by GreekSupporter
Yeah thanks man, I am looking to maybe join another one...and I've told all the rush chairs my expierences and asked them would they let me study and they all said that yeah they'd cut me some slack... is that b.s.?

It isn't BS, but they won't cut you slack if you don't use the time they give you to actually study. So if you have homework due the next day, but didn't use your three or four hours of free time to get it done then it falls on your shoulders. If you are given enough notification of an event, then you should be able to plan your study hours around that event.

[adpiucf]

On my campus, not many of the fraternities were supportive of members' academic goals during pledging and initation week. No one was outrightly forbidden from going to class (they were there!), but I don't think much studying was going on.