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[Tom Earp]

Damn BTD, as You said!

But try getting into Other Countrys with out a Visa! I have only been to a few!

Hungary, Germany, England, Austria.

Mexico dont count, but You damn sure better have someone with You who Comprehendo English and Espinola!

You go to Jail there, You in deep doo doo!

I think they called them Snow Men In the Movie of same title!

[epchick]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
*From a myspace bulletin

I just thought I would repost this because we all know that it's true.

More than 36,000 students from throughout Los Angeles County, California skipped classes and marched through streets and on various freeways Monday, March 27, 2006, to protest an immigration bill being debated in Congress. "We may be illegal immigrants, but we are human," Metropolitan High School senior Melania Preciado said as she waved a Mexican flag. "We deserve the same rights as everyone else, not be treated like criminals." What an ironic statement.

If we all went to Mexico...would we be treated as humans?? (Think of all your friends who have driven down to Mexico for a weekend trip and were either thrown in jail for looking at the Mexican police the wrong way, or were pulled over for no apparent reason and FORCED to pay off the Mexican police in order NOT to be thrown in jail)...

1. Try driving around as a Gringo in Mexico with no

liability insurance, and have an accident.



2. Enter MEXICO illegally - never mind immigration quotas,

visas, international law, or any of that nonsense.



3. Once there, demand that the local government provide

free medical care for you and your entire family.



4. Demand bilingual nurses and doctors.



5. Demand free bilingual local government forms,

bulletins, etc.



6. Speak only English at home and in public and insist

that your children do likewise.



7. Demand classes on American culture in the Mexican

school system.



8. Demand a local Mexican drivers license. This will

afford other legal rights and will go far to legitimize your

unauthorized, illegal, presence in Mexico.



9. Insist that local Mexican law enforcement teach English

to all its officers.



Good luck!



It will not happen in Mexico nor any other country
Try
in the world...except right here in the United States...

Land of those who want to take care of everyone,

except American Citizens!


These "student" protesters, haven't the slightest clue as to what the hell is really going on. They just want an excuse to leave school. What a disgrace to AMERICA, our country!

If you're going to waive a Mexican flag to support your heritage, fine... Just make sure there is an American one next to it...the land that gives to all of its immigrants, and you. IF Mexico is SOOOOO great - Why leave it and come to America? Think about it! Mexico isn't giving their people what they deserve, and that's why they want to be here in America. What is Mexico really doing for its people, other than making them desparate to leave? This is not about people coming to America...just come legally, so the legal system, education, medical, housing, etc., can operate more smoothly and fair for those who are citizens, and those who long to be.


If you agree, pass it on.

If you don't, Please....go ahead and try all the

above in Mexico (and enjoy the prison there too...).

I was gonna say a whole lot as a response to this, but I won't.

I just want to say that this was totally not necessary. I understand that this is how a lot of Americans feel towards the situation, but that was absolutely hurtful to me. Wow!

[Rudey]

Originally posted by epchick
I was gonna say a whole lot as a response to this, but I won't.

I just want to say that this was totally not necessary. I understand that this is how a lot of Americans feel towards the situation, but that was absolutely hurtful to me. Wow!

Did you know they have special envoys that visit jails in Tijuana to check to see if teenagers from San Diego are being held in jails and figure out who to payoff to get them out?

-Rudey

[Kevin]

Originally posted by epchick
I was gonna say a whole lot as a response to this, but I won't.

I just want to say that this was totally not necessary. I understand that this is how a lot of Americans feel towards the situation, but that was absolutely hurtful to me. Wow!

Is any of it untrue?

[ZTAngel]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
Think of all your friends who have driven down to Mexico for a weekend trip and were either thrown in jail for looking at the Mexican police the wrong way, or were pulled over for no apparent reason and FORCED to pay off the Mexican police in order NOT to be thrown in jail

This happened to my boyfriend's best friend the other month. He lives in San Diego. He told us that this has happened to a lot of his friends.

I definitely classify myself as a liberal but on this issue, I'm not. I'm for this bill for all the reasons that were in your post from Myspace.

[RACooper]

Well I do know my "spiritual advisor" was sent down to NO by the Vatican to look into this... and frankly he was disgusted by both sides of the issue - basically the fact that both sides had drifted to the opposite extremes and forgot the people directly affected...

[BobbyTheDon]

Originally posted by ZTAngel
This happened to my boyfriend's best friend the other month. He lives in San Diego. He told us that this has happened to a lot of his friends.

I definitely classify myself as a liberal but on this issue, I'm not. I'm for this bill for all the reasons that were in your post from Myspace.

This has nothing to do with the bill, but I've had a similar experience.

I wasn't drunk, wasn't anything. I was just standing in line to buy a yummy taco when the federalis came up to me and started yelling at me. Handcuffed me and and tried to pull me to their car. Want to know what I did? Nothing. My friend spoke spanish and tried to see what the hell I did. They told him I damaged a car. "What car?" They then kicked a cars hupcap off (a random car) and said I did that. Then I had to bargain with them to let me go. Gave up 50 bucks for nothing.

Good times, I can't wait to go to Rosarito again.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
This has nothing to do with the bill, but I've had a similar experience.

I wasn't drunk, wasn't anything. I was just standing in line to buy a yummy taco when the federalis came up to me and started yelling at me. Handcuffed me and and tried to pull me to their car. Want to know what I did? Nothing. My friend spoke spanish and tried to see what the hell I did. They told him I damaged a car. "What car?" They then kicked a cars hupcap off (a random car) and said I did that. Then I had to bargain with them to let me go. Gave up 50 bucks for nothing.

Good times, I can't wait to go to Rosarito again.

The thing is I really like churos so this tears me up.

-Rudey

[epchick]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Is any of it untrue?

It is not whether it is true or untrue, its hurtful period. What happens it all that was written about your people? Wouldn't you be hurt?

I live on a border city too....San Diego is NOT the ONLY border city, so to just say "well it happens in San Diego" is stupid. So what? The police here in the US are corrupt also, so to say that Mexico doesn't treat people like humans IS hurtful.

I guess it is because my area is probably completely different than your area. In my city, you can't get a job without being at least a little bilingual....its just a way of life here. So to here people say something to the effect of "they can at least learn English" is foreign. People here don't complain about bilingual speakers, and yes it is a little hurtful. I'm not saying that it is wrong to think that--I also think that they should learn English, but dang be a little more tolerant. What is wrong with asking for a doctor/nurse who speaks Spanish also? Again, I guess its different in different areas of the country, so i can't say that it isn't a big deal, when in another area it might be.

All I know is that through all this stuff, we are being treated differently. I got a call from my cousin (who lives in Colorado) and she's been saying that her family have been treatly awful! All of our family are NOT undocumented, we are all natural-born citizens of the U.S., but to some people that isn't good enough. She's told me that her school has already made her prove that her and her brother are U.S. citizens, and anywhere they go they are treated differently. They do speak Spanish to each other (even though they are all fluent in English) and whenever they speak Spanish...like in a restaurant or something...they either get dirty looks, or they are asked to either MOVE to a different area, or they are told to leave the restaurant. Why are people treating them that way, they are U.S. citizens, is it because they speak Spanish---that now people are being given the benefit of the doubt? What now if someone speaks Spanish they are automatically designated as a undocumented immigrant? That's sad, especially because my cousin's dad (who is also my cousin) is part of the Air force, and so there is rarely a time where he is out of his uniform.

I dont' know, I guess its something that I wont understand for a while, but it still hurts.