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03-22-2006, 11:59 AM
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The animal couldn't make a choice when we were spilling chemicals on it to make sure that a shampoo that has been safe for ages is still safe.
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I agree, but that's opening the door to talking about vegetarianism/veganism, and I doubt we want to do that.
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And I'm not exactly sure how beastiality works but I bet an animal likes physical pleasure and comes wanting more of that good old human loving. You might know better so share some stories.
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Did you read that website where the guy talks about sex with dolphins?
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03-22-2006, 12:03 PM
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I agree, but that's opening the door to talking about vegetarianism/veganism, and I doubt we want to do that.
Did you read that website where the guy talks about sex with dolphins?
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And if we can eat, test, torture, and wear them we can surely provide them with a little nooky.
No. Who has sex with dolphins?? They have snouts first of all. Second of all they'd be slippery in the water. I bet it was some French guy.
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03-22-2006, 12:06 PM
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I'd look for it, but I'm at work. I think he lived in Florida - I saw it a couple years ago. He talks about the deep personal connection he has with the dolphins, and makes suggestions for how to hit on (for lack of a better word) wild dolphins.
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03-22-2006, 12:06 PM
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They have snouts first of all.
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Ha. Judging by this girl I knew in college, that does not prevent one from having sex.
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03-22-2006, 08:11 PM
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I can't remember who said it, but I think I read it here and it sums up the situation quite succinctly:
Why are we legislating each others' sex lives?
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How is the fact that polygamy is illegal legislating a sex life? People who are married can have sex with others all they want,and while morally wrong it's not legislating their sex life. you just can't have multiple official spouses. Sure it's illegal, does that mean it's not happening, no.
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03-22-2006, 08:19 PM
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Just imagine the tax implications, multiple spouses and multiple children wshere would the tax breaks start and stop.
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03-23-2006, 12:00 PM
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How is the fact that polygamy is illegal legislating a sex life? People who are married can have sex with others all they want,and while morally wrong it's not legislating their sex life. you just can't have multiple official spouses. Sure it's illegal, does that mean it's not happening, no.
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Why is it any of your business who I'm married to?
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03-23-2006, 12:01 PM
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Why is it any of your business who I'm married to?
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It will be incredibly exciting if someone can give an answer that isn't based on religion.
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03-23-2006, 12:02 PM
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Which is exactly my point, actually. We have seperation of church and state. There shouldn't be tax breaks tied to marriage - a religious event. We don't tie tax breaks to baptisms.
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03-23-2006, 12:03 PM
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It will be incredibly exciting if someone can give an answer that isn't based on religion.
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This is all the more amusing considering we probably couldn't be any more different, politically.
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03-23-2006, 12:17 PM
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Well, marriage can be a completely non-religious event. That said, I don't agree with government involvement in marriage, but I don't think it will ever stop.
Anyway, I agree with what you've said here -- if everybody is a consenting adult, knock yourselves out and do what you gotta do. Leave the children and animals (who can't consent) alone, and have at it.
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03-23-2006, 12:18 PM
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Which is exactly my point, actually. We have seperation of church and state. There shouldn't be tax breaks tied to marriage - a religious event. We don't tie tax breaks to baptisms.
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What business does the government have in how someone runs their company and creates financial statements?
What business does the government have in forcing someone to drink fluoride in their water or have their kids vaccinated?
What business does the government have charging someone for taxes to send someone else's kids to public schools when a person pays tuition to send their own kids to private schools?
And, again, what business does the government have in saying you can't have sex with your family members or an animal?
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03-23-2006, 12:26 PM
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What business does the government have in how someone runs their company and creates financial statements?
What business does the government have in forcing someone to drink fluoride in their water or have their kids vaccinated?
What business does the government have charging someone for taxes to send someone else's kids to public schools when a person pays tuition to send their own kids to private schools?
And, again, what business does the government have in saying you can't have sex with your family members or an animal?
-Rudey
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I actually agree with all of these things.
I think there should be a flat (low) purchasing tax, and that's it. No income tax.
Communities should be able to decide for themselves if they have flouride in the water - and actually, I think they can, because the Washington Post recently ran an article about kids in rural Maryland who're displaying tooth decay equivilent to abuse victims. Because there's no flouride in the water, because the community wants it that way, because they think it causes Alzheimer's.
Ditto the vaccines - you don't have to get your kids vaccinated. There's a movement against that... some moms feel the anecdotal evidence re: a link between autism/vaccinations is strong enough to warrant *not* vaccinating your kid.
etc., etc., etc.
Why do you keep challenging me with this? You know how I feel about these issues, it's silly to make me keep repeating my borderline libertarian stance on things. Nobody cares and it takes time away from my "Try to find out if Britney is pregnant" time.
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Well, marriage can be a completely non-religious event.
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Yes, but I would argue that's developed in the last few decades. I don't think there were a lot of colonists being like, "Oh, let's just trot down to the justice of the peace on our lunch break."
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03-23-2006, 12:29 PM
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personally I don't care what you do in your bed room with a consenting adult. (Rudey animals can't consent, but if you find one that can then you can do what you want.) if you want to particpate in polygomy have a religious ceromony but not a legal document. From my point of view polygamy is like having a very open marriage with set additional partners.
We live in a welfare state. Taxes pay to support that state. We can get rid of all that but I doubt it would improve the state of things much.
Actually Marriage can be commpletely secular, depending on the individuals views.
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You've found a couple cases here or there for vaccines and fluoride. In other places the government does have control.
The fact of the matter is that the government has a say in quite a few things and sex or marriage are no different. If someone thinks the government should allow gay sex, it's only fair for someone else to speak up and demand rights to marrying your sister.
But then again Libertarians are dreamers like Communists.
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I actually agree with all of these things.
I think there should be a flat (low) purchasing tax, and that's it. No income tax.
Communities should be able to decide for themselves if they have flouride in the water - and actually, I think they can, because the Washington Post recently ran an article about kids in rural Maryland who're displaying tooth decay equivilent to abuse victims. Because there's no flouride in the water, because the community wants it that way, because they think it causes Alzheimer's.
Ditto the vaccines - you don't have to get your kids vaccinated. There's a movement against that... some moms feel the anecdotal evidence re: a link between autism/vaccinations is strong enough to warrant *not* vaccinating your kid.
etc., etc., etc.
Why do you keep challenging me with this? You know how I feel about these issues, it's silly to make me keep repeating my borderline libertarian stance on things. Nobody cares and it takes time away from my "Try to find out if Britney is pregnant" time.
Yes, but I would argue that's developed in the last few decades. I don't think there were a lot of colonists being like, "Oh, let's just trot down to the justice of the peace on our lunch break."
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