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03-14-2006, 11:40 AM
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Please expound. I understand that you're making an analogy. But I don't see the correlation between this and racism.
The whole reverse psychology of "please flame me and prove me right" in order to silence people is laughable and sad.
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B_Q13 made a statement about how no one calls rape victims enablers and ONLY racism the enablers are to blame. I was just giving one instance of another situation where the enable is blamed.
And I'm not joking about the flaming. Go ahead. I might not get to respond to everyone's debate, because I'm at work, and I do need to get something done. But I like to debate issues.
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03-14-2006, 11:43 AM
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I'm trying to understand how the poem is racist.
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03-14-2006, 11:44 AM
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Alright! The pony fund is now in bizzness.
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03-14-2006, 11:48 AM
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Question: When has sweeping anything under the rug ever been helpful?  See, this is the reason why we can't get past it because the thought process of "let's just sweep it under the rug" doesn't work - and it never has.
You know, the bible says that when we sin, we should seek forgiveness from God. But although God has forgiven us, that does not mean that we are absolved from the consequences of our sin. Quit turning a blind eye to the consequences of those sins that happened years ago.
I'm pretty appalled that some folks have the nerve to say "get over it". Boom Quack was right....no one would say that to a rape victim or abused wife, but yet its said to African Americans without a second thought.
@ Mulattogyrl: You also didn't know that its "racist" to talk about the past treatment of blacks? LOL
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03-14-2006, 11:59 AM
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@ Alphafrog...I am NOT above blaming the past for current racism as it is the REASON for it!!! What are you suggesting Black people do? Does it look it like things are on a level playing field to you that we can now wipe everything under the rug... There is nowhere in this world where MY people are not subjected to vestiges of slavery NO WHERE...
Ironic...The JEWS are always discussing the hardships of the holocaust and "pound" it in the heads of their youth - NO ONE COMMENTS on that but when WE do it we need to be above that...Please do not be offended but you are extremely misguided. If you have a few white friends don't let the "bond" you have with them fool you into believing OUR situation is overly dramatize and WE are making a mountain out of molehill...
Last point...we should not really care how uncomfortable the TRUTH make someone feels.... ITS THE TRUTH...
We need to be more UNIFIED in our understanding of OUR HISTORY so that we don't get easily fooled when one or two "white folks" show us some kindness... 
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03-14-2006, 12:04 PM
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03-14-2006, 12:05 PM
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If someone does find her poem in its entirety, please let me know as well.  I did a Google search and although I can't find any of her work, she is a very accomplished young lady from what I've read on the 'net so far.
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03-14-2006, 12:14 PM
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@ alphafrog...
I just got word that you ARE one of the "white folks". Now that I am armed with that fact...
Step outside your mental slavery and see the WORLD for what it is...
Do you figure that because we have an Oprah, rappers with money we "made it"...YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. Over 400 years of being underdogs and you think that 1 year or even 10 years would begin to reverse the debilitating effects...
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03-14-2006, 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by sensa_diva
@ alphafrog...
I just got word that you ARE one of the "white folks". Now that I am armed with that fact...
Step outside your mental slavery and see the WORLD for what it is...
Do you figure that because we have an Oprah, rappers with money we "made it"...YOU ARE DELUSIONAL. Over 400 years of being underdogs and you think that 1 year or even 10 years would begin to reverse the debilitating effects...
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I'm not delusional, and I don't think you have it made. But this is not colonial America, or even pre-affirmative action America. You have oppertunities IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM FOR YOURSELF. Those of you who are on this board are mostly college educated or in process. YOU MADE YOUR OPPERTUNITY. I'm sure many of you came from families that didn't live in the best neighborhood and didn't get to go to the best schools and didn't have the money to go to college....but you still found a way to make it happen. Why do you who make it happen, let those who won't make it happen for themselves make excuses? - And I have heard those words come out of more then one black person's mouth (but because I'm white - I'm sure that makes me racist because I said it)
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03-14-2006, 12:30 PM
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I for one am very impressed by this girl's knowledge of world events, history and her ability to link them together into poetry. Had she written about the horrors of the Holocaust I doubt anybody would be sending apologetic voicemails to hundreds of parents. Yet because it's about a touchy subject known as racism, all of a sudden its taboo??!!
Off topic but somewhat related-I spent my spring break at UWI at the Mona campus in Kingston. It was a cultural exchange between students at FSU and those in Jamaica. Not a day went by that we didn't hear a lecture about British imperialism and all the wrongs that came about from it. Yet not once did one of the students through FSU (who is from Nottingham in England, came to FSU to study) get upset about her country being bashed because-hey, it's true.
The truth hurts but we cannot erase history. All we can do is acknowledge it and learn from our past so that we are not doomed to repeat it.
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03-14-2006, 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
No. I am not black. But if someone posted a story about a little white girl who wrote a racist white poem, ya'll sure would be up in arms about it. Why can't I be offended when ya'll are giving high fives to a litte black girl who wrote a racisit poem??? (Or especially in the young man charged with rape thread when everyone just "KNEW" it was a white girl - why can't I be offended when you guys are racist like that - and that is very racist to assume that it was a white girl)
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That's the thing, though. This poem is NOT racist. She is telling things that actually happened. The songs that those racist twins were singing were racist.
Show me where I was up in arms, because I thought the girl in that "rape" case was white. I didn't. I investigated. I call my family, who lives in the area and I asked what was going on. If you have a problem with those whom you think were "up in arms" holla at them about it. Your post is directed to me.
I asked if you were Black, because I wanted to know where you were coming from, when you said "But that is not so much the case anymore (I did not say NOT EVER - because I'm not stupid enough to think there aren't things that still happen). There is oppertunity for everyone now if they want to find it."
When you said the statement that I quoted, I figured you weren't Black, but I didn't want to be presumtuous. You are not qualified to tell me what opportunities exist, or even place a gauge on what type of racist encounters await me, because you have not and willnot walk in my shoes. So, find your lane and stay in it. Shut up, and learn something. Don't think you know anything about my existence. You don't.
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03-14-2006, 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
B_Q13 made a statement about how no one calls rape victims enablers and ONLY racism the enablers are to blame. I was just giving one instance of another situation where the enable is blamed.
And I'm not joking about the flaming. Go ahead. I might not get to respond to everyone's debate, because I'm at work, and I do need to get something done. But I like to debate issues.
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Quit lying on me. I never used te word "enabler." That's the word you pulled outta your a$$ to cover up what you were really saying. You were really saying for us to just get over it.
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03-14-2006, 12:37 PM
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03-14-2006, 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by sensa_diva
@ Alphafrog...I am NOT above blaming the past for current racism as it is the REASON for it!!! What are you suggesting Black people do? Does it look it like things are on a level playing field to you that we can now wipe everything under the rug... There is nowhere in this world where MY people are not subjected to vestiges of slavery NO WHERE...
Ironic...The JEWS are always discussing the hardships of the holocaust and "pound" it in the heads of their youth - NO ONE COMMENTS on that but when WE do it we need to be above that...Please do not be offended but you are extremely misguided. If you have a few white friends don't let the "bond" you have with them fool you into believing OUR situation is overly dramatize and WE are making a mountain out of molehill...
Last point...we should not really care how uncomfortable the TRUTH make someone feels.... ITS THE TRUTH...
We need to be more UNIFIED in our understanding of OUR HISTORY so that we don't get easily fooled when one or two "white folks" show us some kindness...
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03-14-2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
I'm not delusional, and I don't think you have it made. But this is not colonial America, or even pre-affirmative action America. You have oppertunities IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THEM FOR YOURSELF. Those of you who are on this board are mostly college educated or in process. YOU MADE YOUR OPPERTUNITY. I'm sure many of you came from families that didn't live in the best neighborhood and didn't get to go to the best schools and didn't have the money to go to college....but you still found a way to make it happen. Why do you who make it happen, let those who won't make it happen for themselves make excuses? - And I have heard those words come out of more then one black person's mouth (but because I'm white - I'm sure that makes me racist because I said it)
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Just because somebody hasn't "made it" doesn't mean that they aren't trying. We have a loing way to go. Period. It's not about making excuses. If there are REASONS that some things are the way they are, then that is hardly an "excuse."
This is not to call out your weakness, but merely to illustrate my point. I am reading your posts, and I am gritting my teeth, every time I see you write "oppertunity." Although you can't even spell it, I'm sure you have more opportunities than people who can spell it correctly, but look like me. THAT is what burns me up. People who look like you can be mediocre at best, and still have opportunities that our best and brightest won't even get a chance to apply for.
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