Illegal immigrants and New Orleans

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by dzrose93
But it's still illegal, and I don't like it. I'm sorry if that offends someone, but it's how I feel.

Until 2003 there were laws against oral sex on the books. Did you avoid all such activity until it became legal?

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Until 2003 there were laws against oral sex on the books. Did you avoid all such activity until it became legal?

Sorry - I don't see any correlation between people entering our country illegally and someone having oral sex.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by dzrose93
Sorry - I don't see any correlation between people entering our country illegally and someone having oral sex.

You said that "It's still illegal, and I don't like it" implying you disliked it because it was illegal. Do you dislike all illegal acts? Speeding, jaywalking, oral sex, marijuana use, etc.

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
You said that "It's still illegal, and I don't like it" implying you disliked it because it was illegal. Do you dislike all illegal acts? Speeding, jaywalking, oral sex, marijuana use, etc.

The world isn't that black and white. I don't think anyone can truthfully say that they dislike all illegal acts because there are varying degrees of illegal activity. I suppose it would be pretty accurate to say that I dislike illegal acts that negatively impact other people. I wouldn't categorize oral sex and jaywalking in with, say, murder or rape. Some are victimless crimes which, by their very nature, make them less serious.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by dzrose93
The world isn't that black and white. I don't think anyone can truthfully say that they dislike all illegal acts because there are varying degrees of illegal activity. I suppose it would be pretty accurate to say that I dislike illegal acts that negatively impact other people. I wouldn't categorize oral sex and jaywalking in with, say, murder or rape. Some are victimless crimes which, by their very nature, make them less serious.

So who is victimized by illegal immigrants?

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
So who is victimized by illegal immigrants?

Generally speaking... you, me... anyone who pays taxes really.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
So who is victimized by illegal immigrants?

I think that the illegal immigrants are in danger of being victimized. I am also concerned about their safety on the job. I have heard of illegal immigrants being severely injured on construction sites.

This is a pretty interesting discussion.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by dzrose93
Generally speaking... you, me... anyone who pays taxes really.

Not true for about a million reasons. Here is one.

The United States benefits from the fact that it is the currency of choice in the black and grey markets. People in other countries, criminals, and illegal immigrants hold onto that cash helping the economy.

Or how about the fact that they pay taxes like social security which they will never be able to recoup? That is a grant to the United States.

As for output, given that their help drives so much of our industries from farming to construction to the restaurant business, I would love to know how this economic support they give the US is eclipsed by meager benefits they may receive from a government.

-Rudey

[dzrose93]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I think that the illegal immigrants are in danger of being victimized. I am also concerned about their safety on the job. I have heard of illegal immigrants being severely injured on construction sites.

This is a pretty interesting discussion.

I agree with you. The illegals are taken advantage of by the smugglers who bring them in as well as the companies who hire them for less than their labor is worth. The companies know that they can get away with just about anything when they have illegal workers because the illegals are afraid to complain for fear of being deported.

[dzrose93]

Rudey,

Here's an article from Time magazine that I thought was pretty informative regarding some of the problems that stem from illegal immigration. (Warning, it's LONG!)

http://www.kfi640.com/time_dooropen.html