2008 Presidential Race - Page 3

honeychile · #31 11-16-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
Kappa Alpha Theta

Well, they do have a strong footing in the White House at the moment...!

I see that Evan Bayh was in a fraternity, but it doesn't mention which one, other than Indiana Beta. Do you know which?

GeekyPenguin · #32 11-17-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by honeychile
Well, they do have a strong footing in the White House at the moment...!

I see that Evan Bayh was in a fraternity, but it doesn't mention which one, other than Indiana Beta. Do you know which?

Phi Kappa Psi, per the Wikipedia.

Optimist Prime · #33 11-17-2005, 11:10 AM

George Allen will never be president. Even if it comes down to two nominess from same state (i doubt that will happen), George Allen will loose for the same exact reasons Jerry Kilgore did. The tide is turning.

ADPiAkron · #34 11-17-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier
He will benefit, though, if Hillary wraps up the nomination early, and the Dems jump into the GOP primary and vote for McCain.

I thought if you were a registered Democrat you cannot vote in a Republican primary-- or is that only for local races?

In addition, as a Dem, if McCain did run and win

I do not think I would have a huge problem with it. I mean things couldn't get worse than they are now I would hope.

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Originally posted by a.e.B.O.T.
To win, we need to find

the man from the lower-class who struggled through life, but made it on his good values

or

the good ole southern all-american boy with dimples and a silly accent

All I know is, by then, Im getting the hell out of Ohio
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HAHAHAHAHA Well things should be better here by then with a new Governor in place!! HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL OR CAN GET BETTER!

Xylochick216 · #35 11-17-2005, 07:44 PM

You're not registered with any party affiliation in Virginia. You can vote in either, but just one. The Republican primary is usually first, so I usually vote in that one. The Dem. nominees are usually chosen by the time they have the primary here.

I think a lot of Dems (including myself) wouldn't mind McCain. He's a true moderate, which is what I think our country needs right now. We've gone WAY too far to the right, and I think they need someone to center it up a little more and hopefully make some of the hostiity die down.

AGDee · #36 11-17-2005, 11:42 PM

The rules for primaries vary by state. During the primaries when it was Bush vs. McCain, I voted in the Republican primary, for McCain. They made a big fuss in the media about how many Democrats voted in the Republican primary and the Republicans were saying that we were trying to screw up their election results. Then, during the election, they try to get the moderate Democrats to vote for their candidate (they refer to them as the Reagan Democrats, because they voted for Reagan). I didn't vote for McCain in the Republican primary to screw up the Republicans. I voted for him because I would consider voting for him for President. I think he would have won the election over Gore (the popular vote too, not just the electoral vote).

Exquisite5 · #37 11-18-2005, 01:17 AM

I'm a Dem and I'd vote for McCain over Hillary. I would probably vote for him over anybody, as a military wife I like him because he is a REAL military man. As a regular old American I like him because he is not an extremist and actually represents middle America.

My ideal race is McCain v. Warner- I don't even know who I would vote for and honestly probably wouldn't care. I would be tickeled pink no matter who won. Okay, maybe I'd vote for McCain because he was military and was a POW, but it would be a tough call. In all honesty I would probably vote for Warner just so Republicans wouldn't control all levels of gov't again, but that would be on the only reason and even then I am not so sure I could turn my back on McCain because he has remained a moderate and fair Republican when in his party it has NOT been popular. I like to reward loyalty and people who don't sell out.

I hate that candidates of late have been way left or way right, what about good old normal people who see good things in either party?

Rudey · #38 11-18-2005, 02:03 AM

McCain is a moderate. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-Rudey

RedRoseSAI · #39 11-18-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
I really don't think the opposition to Hillary would be because she is a woman. Many people who would never vote for her would have no problem voting for Condi.

I agree with this. I really do not like Hillary, so as much as I'd like to see a woman president, she won't get my vote.

Then again, I'm not a huge Condi fan, either. ::sigh::

KillarneyRose · #40 11-18-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
McCain is a moderate. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-Rudey

Seriously, do you think he's a conservative? I don't really think he is but I'm interested to hear your opinion. I like him but I'll admit I may be biased because he's a USNA grad and former POW.

Exquisite5 · #41 11-18-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
McCain is a moderate. AHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

-Rudey

I am curious as to this too, If I am wrong I have no problem saying I'm wrong.

How/why is he conservative? Like Kilarney said, maybe I am just biased because he is a USNA grad and a POW. But seriously, I love to be educated, so let me know why Mccain and Cheney are >>here<<.

KSigkid · #42 11-18-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Seriously, do you think he's a conservative? I don't really think he is but I'm interested to hear your opinion. I like him but I'll admit I may be biased because he's a USNA grad and former POW.

Rudey probably knows more about this than I do, but I was always under the impression that he was conservative when it came to the military and social issues (he advocates overturning Roe v. Wade, for one thing). He's also an outspoken opponent of pork barrel spending.

Exquisite5 · #43 11-18-2005, 10:36 AM

Well his military stance is part of WHY I like him, and although I am pro-choice, for me, a politician's stance on Roe. v. Wade is not a limit test. There are issues far more important to me and my community than abortion- in fact having never had nor wanted one I can say abortion is one issue that while a popular 'hot topic' it has little to do with my life. Now my husband's pay, my tricare benefits, taxes, torturing terrorists/POWs which sets us up for our men to in turn be tortured...those things matter to me and cause me worry/concern daily.

But I digress, I guess I always thought that moderate meant a person had a mix of right and left values, so what you are saying to me still would cause McCain to be a moderate. I take what you are saying to suggest that those are areas in which he is more conservative, but that those areas might be particularities, not that he is staunchly conservative on everything.

Is this incorrect? Is there actually a platform of moderate beliefs? If so, are you saying that McCain is not a moderate because on the military and abortion he differs from the platform?

DeltAlum · #44 11-18-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by hoosier
McCain likely won't survive the primaries, since he is on all sides of issues and doesn't have a conservative base.

Great news! Let him be the candidate for both "sides" and maybe some of us can be happy with a choice -- or lack of it.

Lindz928 · #45 11-18-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by Exquisite5
I guess I always thought that moderate meant a person had a mix of right and left values, so what you are saying to me still would cause McCain to be a moderate. I take what you are saying to suggest that those are areas in which he is more conservative, but that those areas might be particularities, not that he is staunchly conservative on everything.

This is what I always thought as well.