The Race Card

[Lady of Pearl]

To even get into Harvard one has to pass the same tests as anyone else, race is a factor that may be taken into consideration. Now, if the student fails how can he blame Harvard for not preparing him for the standard of his own education let alone use his race as the determining factor. He has to pass or fail on his own merit, the standard is there, he has to apply himself and open a book!

[teena]

Originally posted by starang21
the only way a white person could possibly understand the racial dynamics and truly know what it is to walk in a person of color's shoes is to travel to a country where

a. they are the severe minority
b. the racial climate is similar to america

I think for the most part, many of the posters on GC are fairminded individuals (maybe because of the diversity of the student body at college). The ones with the serious issues wont post or participate in an honest discussion on race. They will sit back in the cut, with hate in their hearts, never saying a word. As far as I am concerned, they are the most lethal.

But to respond to what Starang said....that is the absolute positive truth. I was in the military for a while and did a one year tour in Korea. As a black woman, I was absolutely amazed at the response of the Caucasion(sp) soldiers to racism against them. The store keepers would sometimes refuse to sell to soldiers or would overcharge along with hostile stares a general rudeness. They were really offended and confused as to why the South Koreans were so hostile to them (they were hostile to all soldiers. Many of the Koreans in our specific area had never come in contact or seen non Koreans). Ironically, these same soldiers could be seen walking through the countryside yelling "WHY DON'T YOU ALL SPEAK ENGLISH" . We would get briefings on how to interact with the Nationals and the soldiers would be emotional (almost teary eyed) recounting altercations with the nationals. Anywway, when I can back stateside, the most down, coolest Caucasion people I would run into had done a tour in Korea. I even had a section Sergeant who stepped in on a racial issue (He cut the fool on my behalf....I loved him to death).

BTW.....I always believe that OJ did it, Micheal Jackson did it, R Kelly did it. I dont believe in upholding wrong because of race.

Racism is still an issue here in the US. We still really refuse to deal with it.

[PiKA2001]

Back to the original post on this thread talking about OJ Simpson. I don't think that it's a race issue on how he got off the hook, it's a fame issue. Same as Robert Blake...He had a hitman kill his wife. I love it how those two were found "innocent" during the state criminal trials yet were found guilty during the civil trials. It just shows that if you have the money you can do whatever you want.

[USCTKE]

it's a fame issue

exactly a famous person is probably a 100 times more likely to get away with a crime (or get a easier sentence) than a normal person (although I am sure Ray Carruth would disagree with me)

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by teena
I think for the most part, many of the posters on GC are fairminded individuals (maybe because of the diversity of the student body at college).

Racism is still an issue here in the US. We still really refuse to deal with it.

America is still very racially segregated. That applies to our colleges, places of worship, workplaces and families.

The importance of "racial" diversity has been replaced with cultural, regional, social class and religious diversity. People overwhelmingly live in bubbles and surround themselves with like minded and similarly situated others.

Like you said racism (and discrimination) is still an issue in the U.S. People refuse to deal with it because racism has a different manifestation than in years past and people have been throwing THE R WORD around carelessly. When you even have racial and ethnic minorities denying that racism exists, or saying that they have never experienced racism and wish everyone would get over it, why wouldn't nonminorities also question its validity? This stuff IS rocket science sometimes and not everyone is concious and observant of their social world.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Back to the original post on this thread talking about OJ Simpson. I don't think that it's a race issue on how he got off the hook, it's a fame issue. Same as Robert Blake...He had a hitman kill his wife. I love it how those two were found "innocent" during the state criminal trials yet were found guilty during the civil trials. It just shows that if you have the money you can do whatever you want.

The race issue with Simpson has more to do with the public's reaction to his arrest and trial:

1) The "black man-white woman dynamic"
2) The "his not guilty verdict is payback for years of injustice"

and, my favorite

3) The whites who were falling over themselves and outraged when he was acquitted.

Contrary to popular opinion, most blacks didn't view Simpson as a hero nor did they really think he was innocent. Just like how many blacks supported Rodney King's ignorant ass because of their general distaste for the police brutality of blacks and Hispanics.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by USCTKE
I dont see where there is a huge racial seperation in South Carolina. I have lived my entire life outside of Charleston and some of my best and oldest friends are black. Maybe it is because the high school I went to had a majority of black students. I have friends who are "semi-racists" not because they were taught growing up to hate black people or whatever just because of their own personal experiences with people of that race (long complicated story that involved the death of a friend)...I have noticed a bigger racial seperation in people that I know from other states.

You're right, there is racial separation everywhere. "Huge" is a subjective and unnecessary descriptive/distinction when talking about race issues.

Some of your best and oldest friends being black has really nothing to do with whether or not there's a huge racial separation in S.C.

[Taualumna]

Teena,

I "complained" that Hong Kongers were "hostile" to me, even though I look just like them. Things just are "different" in Asia. For example, waitstaff would stand by your table, almost glaring at you while you're paying for your dinner. They seemed so impatient to me. At least the service charge is included...This only happens even at some of the higher end restaurants. Privacy isn't something more traditional Asians believe in...

[Phasad1913]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
. Just like how many blacks supported Rodney King's ignorant ass because of their general distaste for the police brutality of blacks and Hispanics.

LOL. Exactly.

[Tom Earp]

IS anyone else getting fed up with The Race Card being thrown out everytime someone is not elected or accepted?

In todays Local News Paper, the Race Card was thrown because a African-American was not selected to the Head of The County Court.

If a race of people do not wanted to be deemed as such then dont make a reason for being judged as such.

It does get tiresome.

Hell, I am a Minority anymore not the Great White Hope as some so profess.

White Male.
Over 35.
Divorced.
Working.
Not on Welfare.
No Kids.
Drive a sensible auto.
Dont live above My means.

I dont have a vision card and try to use it at an ATM when it is not supposed to for that purpose.

[F8ful_n_durance]

Originally posted by Tom Earp

In todays Local News Paper, the Race Card was thrown because a African-American was not selected to the Head of The County Court.

Do you know the other circumstances surrounding this decision? Or do you know why AA feel that way about this particular incident? Their view could be valid or not. You didn't give us much to make a judgment on.

Originally posted by Tom Earp
If a race of people do not wanted to be deemed as such then dont make a reason for being judged as such.

Goes to show that you really don't understand the plight of the AA and maybe you should ask questions like why do AA or better yet why do SOME AA feel a certain way and maybe you can better understand where they are coming from. Who said that AA did not want to be "deemed as such" ? I love being an AA and so does every AA thatI know. So that statement is false!

Originally posted by Tom Earp
It does get tiresome.

You are soooooooooo right!!! Try being a MINORITY period in a racist and chauvinistic society. How must they feel?!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
IS anyone else getting fed up with The Race Card being thrown out everytime someone is not elected or accepted?

In todays Local News Paper, the Race Card was thrown because a African-American was not selected to the Head of The County Court.

If a race of people do not wanted to be deemed as such then dont make a reason for being judged as such.

It does get tiresome.

Hell, I am a Minority anymore not the Great White Hope as some so profess.

White Male.
Over 35.
Divorced.
Working.
Not on Welfare.
No Kids.
Drive a sensible auto.
Dont live above My means.

I dont have a vision card and try to use it at an ATM when it is not supposed to for that purpose.

I understand your grammar well enough to respond with this:

BTW, whites are the ones who started using the term "race card." If you're tired of the "race card" being used, start by getting rid of that annoyingly stupid title for all issues (valid or not) dealing with race in AmeriKKKa.

Other than that, white privilege generally allows you the ability to lend credibility to issues of race in the eyes of mainstream AmeriKKKa. If you say there's a race issue, discussions begin. If you say there isn't a race issue, there is no discussion. As a white male, you will never quite be the minority because you will always yield the most power in this KKKountry. That's called the intersectionality of race and gender. Have a blessed evening.

[Tom Earp]

AmeriKKKa.

I am sorry for Your thinking, but That Wording is used by a few White Racist, not every White Person as You may so suggest.

No, I did not Know That The Race Card was Used By Whites as all I see is some like You and others bring In The Race Card!

Everything is the Race Card when a AA is not accepted to a School because they did not have the GPA, or there was not a AA who was not chosen for a position.

If YOU have that Much Hatred, then, that is Your Personell Problem, Not everyone elses!

Sorry, I have AA Friends, Fraternity Brothers Who I welcome In My House anytime, can You say the same?

As I was Taught By An Uncle when I was young, "The Word NIGGER" was derived from the Nigre River area of Africa, meaning an area where people were darker than.

Never tell Me that the White man of America brought Slaves over from Africa to America. Were They Used, Yes. Did Many stay where they were because they were treated well by many, Yes. Not everyone is the same or do You disagree with that!


Most were Brought by Dutch Traders and Got Them From Other African Tribes for $$$ (MONEY)!

Your AA gets overwhelming.

[F8ful_n_durance]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
AmeriKKKa.

I am sorry for Your thinking, but That Wording is used by a few White Racist, not every White Person as You may so suggest.

No, I did not Know That The Race Card was Used By Whites as all I see is some like You and others bring In The Race Card!

Everything is the Race Card when a AA is not accepted to a School because they did not have the GPA, or there was not a AA who was not chosen for a position.

If YOU have that Much Hatred, then, that is Your Personell Problem, Not everyone elses!

Sorry, I have AA Friends, Fraternity Brothers Who I welcome In My House anytime, can You say the same?

Once again you do not understand the plight of the AA and the thoughts behind what "We" deem as to be "racial bias(es)" in this country. I cannot speak on behalf of the whole race, but I can say that something is not "racial" based on 1 particular incident. When something has been labeled as such it is because of the history or precendence that has been set or because there has been a pattern of "when a AA is not accepted to a School because they did not have the GPA, or there was not a AA who was not chosen for a position." When there has been a pattern then that is an issue that needs to be addressed. Wouldn't you say? NO you don't understand, because as a WHITE MALE you haven't seen that happen in your community. Or have you?

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by F8ful_n_durance
Once again you do not understand the plight of the AA and the thoughts behind what "We" deem as to be "racial bias(es)" in this country. I cannot speak on behalf of the whole race, but I can say that something is not "racial" based on 1 particular incident. When something has been labeled as such it is because of the history or precendence that has been set or because there has been a pattern of "when a AA is not accepted to a School because they did not have the GPA, or there was not a AA who was not chosen for a position." When there has been a pattern then that is an issue that needs to be addressed. Wouldn't you say? NO you don't understand, because as a WHITE MALE you haven't seen that happen in your community. Or have you?

Yes I have as a Police Officer and a Human Being. I have delt with this for many Years as a Business Owner.

You wont give Me Credit Cause I am Black. No Ass Whole, I dont give anyone Credit.

I as A Police Officer Did Deal with all Peoples and the only thing I was worried about was the breaking of The Law. I never gave a Damn What The Color Was, I did My Job. I was very Well Known in The Black Community for being Fair and This is How I Was.

I am still the same way today and Have the respect of AA.
Did You Know White Rubs Off?

A Person Who pays their Way is not looked down on, only the ones who think they are owed!

I made My Way as You and others did.