Bad Press...

[DolphinChicaDDD]

Originally posted by valkyrie
He's also the webmaster for the College Republicans.

Just call me valkyrie, interweb detective.

Dude, you're awesome. Seriously, I bow to your detective skills.


And I would have rallied as well. Hell, I probably would have rallied earlier with some of his articles (which, as pointed out earlier, lack depth, insight, and are clearly writted according to his personal opnion). Another part of me is almost numb to this kind of editorial because we've all seen similar articles before. But good for a campus for finally doing something about it.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by valkyrie
Junior chemistry major Daniel Underwood says all of his science classes teach atheistic assumptions about the origin of life and the universe, but nothing about a divine creator. However, Underwood says that is just one aspect of the pervasive anti-Christian bias on display at NC State. "There's a marginalization of anyone who holds any sort of religious views firmly," says Underwood, who is a born-again Christian.

He recalls an incident last semester in which a professor asked a guest speaker not to mention the name of "Jesus" while addressing his "Social Deviance" class. Professor Robert Stone, the student says, made the request after ex-convict John Kinlaw told the class that his life had dramatically changed after he abandoned a life of crime to follow Jesus Christ.

Underwood, who wrote a column about the incident for the student newspaper, believes that Stone -- like many others on campus -- is uncomfortable with born-again Christians.

"This particular professor had his own animosity toward Christianity in particular," Underwood says, "but I think generally speaking, professors and teaching faculty are much more embracing of any religion other than Christianity -- and particularly, Islam."

In fact, Underwood believes if Kinlaw had said his life changed dramatically because he began praying to Allah, Stone would not have censored him.

In writing the column, the junior says he wanted to warn his fellow students about what is happening on campus. "I really wanted to stress to the students that they should be on guard against this, and try to take notice when their teachers may be doing things similar to what [Professor Stone] did," he says.

He and I wouldn't agree as to the meaning of "conservative", but that's for another thread.

Okay, you have certainly made your case though. This guy is a moron.

I would agree on the point that he is certainly a fundamentalist christian wacko, borderline facist, etc., but conservative... those are fightin' words.

All hail valkyrie's detective work.

[moe.ron]

I'm still trying to figure out where Islam fits into his argument. Sounds like he's trying to find a boogey man.

[33girl]

Someone really needs to pull a Fred Durst on this dude and put pictures of his penis on the intraweb.

[adpiucf]

But he's a student journalist. Student journalists write stories with angles that no one has ever thought of before!!!! Student journalists know everything!

Even when he is speaking in generalities, you should never, never question a student journalist. He's very experienced in life and philosophy.

Shame on you all. His words were so original and throught-provoking! We should sit at his feet, looking up admiringly and soaking in his words of wisdom.

/sarcasm

[irishpipes]

I think this guy should expect to be criticized for writing this article. Obviously his writing skills are poor, and the content is unresearched and inflammatory. But why the criticism for being a Christian or a conservative?

[TSteven]

From the second article Protest storms Harris Field
Posted: 08.30.2005
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Rebecca Heslin, Technician's editor-in-chief, said with this recent column, there was a lot of discussion on campus and Technician received both positive and negative feedback.

...and further down...

The first Greek male member to address the crowd was Jeff Skalka, president of the Interfraternity Council.

"It's a shame we had to come out because of these circumstances," Skalka said.

Pointing out that Heslin, a member of Zeta Tau Alpha , wore sunglasses similar to the ones described in Underwood's column, Skalka said the images of sorority women did not determine their character.

Skalka, like Anderson and Babb, also harped on the community service hours put in by NCSU sorority members in addition to other positives of the Greek community.

Heslin said prior to the protest, she was curious if organizers would give her the opportunity to speak, not only as the editor of Technician but also as a sorority member.

"As editor-in-chief, I accept the role of being held responsible for everything that's published in the newspaper," Heslin said. "I almost expected more of a chance to voice my opinion... I was not expecting to be called out."

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by irishpipes
I think this guy should expect to be criticized for writing this article. Obviously his writing skills are poor, and the content is unresearched and inflammatory. But why the criticism for being a Christian or a conservative?

Someone said that he was a liberal and I was showing what I consider to be evidence that he is not. I also think some of his quotes indicate some type of mental issues, but that's a story for another day.

[TSteven]

Also from the second article.

Monday afternoon, Heslin [editor of Technician and a sorority member] visited Greek Life with a list of members from a Thefacebook.com group entitled "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes."

The list included approximately 49 sorority and fraternity members from NCSU, a number which has dwindled severely since Monday.

Skalka [president of the Interfraternity Council] publicly abhorred the groups and said that these group members encouraged stereotypes of Greek Life. He said all Greek Life members should "get out of that or get out of Greek Life."

[Lindz928]

Originally posted by TSteven
He said all Greek Life members should "get out of that or get out of Greek Life."[/I]

This is dumb.

Don't people realize that those groups are jokes?

[TSteven]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
Now, to be honest, I don't have a huge problem with much of what's said in this article. I agree absolutely that there are many sorority women out there who throw themselves into Greek culture to mask their insecurities. Where I think the problem lies is the fact that the author feels so superior to these women. We all have our ways of dealing with our insecurities that may not be so healthy . . . like, oh, writing columns bashing others in our student newspapers?

Also, his insinuation that just because someone is attractive and well-dressed, they must be insecure? Is silly and misguided.

From the original article's last paragraph.

My contention is not with sorority life. I'm worried about the girls who have nose-dived into sorority pop-culture to mask their insecurities.

The article may not have been as bad had Mr. Underwood been clear from the start with this point. He could (should?) have then gone into insecurities *in general* as they relate to college women. And perhaps college men too. *Then* he could make the point that some women - and men - may join a GLO (or any other organization) for *the wrong reasons*. (Or how ever he might want to go with the article.) Unfortunately, the article became an attack on sorority women.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by Lindz928
This is dumb.

Don't people realize that those groups are jokes?

Apparently not since Mr. Skalka, NC State's IFC President, felt a need to address it [Facebook's "Fratdaddies and sorostitutes"] at the protest.

[Ch2tf]

Originally posted by Lindz928
This is dumb.

Don't people realize that those groups are jokes?

Maybe not (see Pimps & Ho's party thread). Whether or not the majority of non-greeks share Underwood's opinion remains to be seen (and maybe should be explored???).

I am glad that they protested, but sororities (and fraternities) can best prove him wrong by continuing to service the community and doing great things, like they have been doing. And I don't doubt that this will have some type of affect on rush, but any PNM who is truely interested in Greek life or a particular organization will do their homework and not let his voice be the sole opinion that they take into account

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Lindz928
This is dumb.

Don't people realize that those groups are jokes?

I agree.

Isn't it kind of like I can make fun of my mom, but if YOU do, I'm going to be pissed?

[xo_kathy]

Originally posted by irishpipes
I think this guy should expect to be criticized for writing this article. Obviously his writing skills are poor, and the content is unresearched and inflammatory. But why the criticism for being a Christian or a conservative?

Because judging (Judge not, lest ye be judged) a group of women and calling them a "sorostitue" is not exactly 'Christian'.