Hairdresser Woes (Time and Price)

[darling1]

i have had 1 experience where i dealt with a stylist who had me in a chair for hours. my suggestion is to decide what you want and not tolerate the ghetto business practices. continue to do the research to find the best. you may have to sacrifice a few more dollars for quality but at least you wont be in a chair forever and a day.


essence magazine usually has a listing from time to time on the best salons overall.

if you have medium to long hair, dominicans are the best. the do what is called a doobie which, if i remember is a roller set. they are very cheap!

[tnxbutterfly]

I love my hairdresser. I've been with her for 4 years. I am always in and out in about 2 hours if I don't get a fancy style. Last time I was there, I was out in 90 minutes. She charges 65 for my relaxer and 35 for wash and dry.

[Pearls4Life]

Not so funny story,
My hair dresser went out for surgery and assigned all her clients (over 80) to the other 2 hair dressers in the shop. Well one month in new territory and my sisters is missing hair on the sides and back (she cried like a baby) and I was over processed and burnt in the top and another client was burnt on the neck from processing.....dang it! Don't they have licenses for doing hair....I mean did the rules change when my hair dresser went out for surgery or what?

All said, next time I'm getting braids.

Not just mad.... I AM PISSED !!!

[Conskeeted7]

I thought this could be counted as a hairdresser woe. Someone sent me the email:

Lifestyles Report...Hair scare
by Debbie Norrell

At least two months ago WPXI contacted me to do an interview about ingredients in hair care products used by African-Americans possibly leading to breast cancer. I was selected because I am a 15-year breast cancer survivor. I agreed to do the interview. However at the end of the taping I didn't know anything more about the study than before the cameras started rolling.

Recently WAMO news anchor and New Pittsburgh Courier freelance writer Allegra Battle did a story on this same subject and it was a feature on the May 9, 5 p.m. KDKA news. But at the end of these stories we still did not have a list of the products. Battle gave me the list that didn't make her feature during a recent visit I made to the WAMO studio's promoting the Pittsburgh Race for the Cure. So many of my friends have seen the stories on television or read about this issue in the paper and they want to know which products to be concerned about.

However I wanted to give you more so I went to the Internet and looked for articles from the Center for Environmental Oncology and found one entitled: Why Healthy People Get Cancer: Center Examines Environmental Suspects (update spring 2005).

The article stated, one of immediate research priorities of the new center is the puzzling phenomenon of breast cancer in African-Americans under the age of 40, who have nearly twice as much breast cancer as do white women.

The center will work with Silent Spring Institute, a Massachusetts based cancer institute, to identify suspect contaminants and ingredients in hair care products and other personal products regularly used by African-American young women and their mothers.

More recently, attention has turned to estrogenic compounds in hair care products used by Black women as a possible explanation for higher cancer rates in this population. I've started to carry copies of the list in my purse but we're going to share it with you right here. The list simply says: The following is a list of products that have previously been found to contain hormones:

Placenta Shampoo
Queen Helene Placenta cream hair conditioner
Placenta revitalizing shampoo
Perm Repair with placenta
Proline Perm Repair with placenta
Hormone hair food Jojoba oil
Triple action super grow
Supreme Vita-Gro
Luster's Sur Glo Hormone
B & B Super Gro
Lekair natural Super Glo
Lekair Hormone hair treatment with Vitamin E
Isoplus Hormone hair treatment wit Quinine
Fermodyl with Placenta hair conditioner
Supreme Vita-Gro with allantoin and estrogen plus TEA-COCO
Hask Placenta Hair conditioner
Nu Skin body smoother and
Nu Skin Enhancer.

The majority of these products contain placental extract, placenta, hormones or estrogen. As early as 1983 Dr. Devra Davis (epidemiologist and director of the Center for Environmental oncology, part of the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute) and co-researcher Leon Bradlow advanced the theory that xenoestrogens, synthetic estrogen imitators, were a possible cause of breast cancer.

Davis also says, "most cases of breast cancer are not born, but made and the more hormones a woman is exposed to in her lifetime, the greater her risk of breast cancer."

We need to be more cautious of the products that we use on our hair and our bodies and demand that more information about our health is shared.

Ladies and gentlemen beware.

(Email the columnist at debbienorrell.com.)

[Honeykiss1974]

Since being diagnosised with fibroids, I have ran across this reasearch as well when searching for causes of fibroids too (synthetic hormones used in many of our hair care products). Cream of Nature also falls into the category as those listed above.

This is one of the reason why I have stopped using black hair care products all together. I know in the past I've used B&B Super Gro FAITHFULLY as well as other products listed.

This is just one of many reasons why I'm into making my own hair care products because you never know.

[Munchkin03]

I've heard not-so-good things about B&B. There have been articles out about the fact that AA girls appear to start puberty much earlier than Whites and Latinas, and one possible cause is the high estrogen content in some hair products. Several studies mentioned B&B Super Gro specifically.

Speaking of hair woes, my favorite hair product (John Frieda Relax) has been discontinued. It was great, and hormone-free to boot. Now I'm buying it in bulk off of eBay. Damn.

[AKA2D '91]

HC products and Fibroids? Say what??!?!?


My stylist uses Paul Mitchell and Dudley's.

I walked in again yesterday evening for my perm. Went straight to the chair. I wasn't there that long. The style I have is very convenient. I don't think my hair is dry, I'll "take it down" Saturday or Sunday. My appointment was for this morning. I'm glad I followed my first mind yesterday. Shucks, I got the heck out of dodge for the third time this week. Yet, my hair is straight and clean.

[SummerChild]

Munchkin, my dad thinks that the kids are developing so early nowadays (boys are taller and girls are starting puberty earlier) b/c of the hormones *in the food*. There are so many hormones in food (the chicken legs are huge, the eggs are huge, etc.) .

SC

Originally posted by Munchkin03
I've heard not-so-good things about B&B. There have been articles out about the fact that AA girls appear to start puberty much earlier than Whites and Latinas, and one possible cause is the high estrogen content in some hair products. Several studies mentioned B&B Super Gro specifically.

Speaking of hair woes, my favorite hair product (John Frieda Relax) has been discontinued. It was great, and hormone-free to boot. Now I'm buying it in bulk off of eBay. Damn.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by SummerChild
Munchkin, my dad thinks that the kids are developing so early nowadays (boys are taller and girls are starting puberty earlier) b/c of the hormones *in the food*. There are so many hormones in food (the chicken legs are huge, the eggs are huge, etc.) .

SC

We have a thread on that. LOL

[Kloud9]

Originally posted by SummerChild
Ladies,
Is it just me and my hairdresser or do all hairdressers take forever to see a client and then all day to finish them up.

I wish that I could find a hairdresser for which I do not have to sit 30 minutes to an hour (yes, an hour) before she can even *start* on me. Come on, really. I feel like, they should be able to give a better appointment time...something closer to the time that they will actually begin on you. I also try not to go on weekends but even on say, Tuesday night, it will be 3 hours plus before I'm able to leave (although she can start earlier).

I know that getting my hair blow dryed will shorten the process but my hair is much healthier (and the style lasts longer) when I go under the dryer. Still, even with going under the dryer, I don't see a single head taking 3 hours plus.


Has anyone had any success finding a hairdresser that does not overbook and that can get a client in and out in 2 hours or so? I just don't see sitting in a hair salon all night (or all day) long. What did you do if you've been successful?

Also, I'm sure that this is just me (and my cheap self) but I just don't see paying $35 plus just for a wrap! I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I can wrap my hair and sit under a hairdryer at home (and I do sometimes). What is up with the high, high prices? Spirals are $45. I just don't understand paying almost $50 for someone to put rollers in my head, sit me under a dryer and take them back out.

Is anyone else out there experiencing this or am I just extra cheap?

Soror, the earlier the better. I went to the shop last week (my appt was at 8:30 am) and I was outta there before 10. I sat under the dryer for 30 min after getting my hair treatment, got my wrap afterwards and was done. I can honestly say that I've never had any issues with hair dressers seeing me at my scheduled time though. Now pricing, that I can complain about I paid $55 to get a power pack( hair treatment that stops shedding) and a wrap. For the wrap alone I usually pay $45, which I think is still ridiculous (I am used to paying $30 down south) In two weeks I have to go for a touch up/trim. This is gonna cost me $75 Black hair care maintenance is so expensive but in my case, well worth it. Good products yield good results. Plus my stylist specializes in hair CARE not just getting your $ and giving you what you want. I can appreciate that

Horror story: A salon in Columbia, SC that shall remain nameless is responsible for the damage my hair has incurred over the last couple months. I went in for a wet set but decided to add in a rinse for something different. Last week I go to my hair dresser home in Cali and she attributes the breakage of my hair to PERMANENT COLOR. That's right, this negro put a permanent color in my hair rather than a rinse as I requested. I never would've guessed, I thought it was the transition from fairly clean southern water to extra filthy California water, but she is sure that that negro put a permanent rather than a rinse because the original color (cranberry) has faded to a sandy brown and I have a line of demartation-only found in permanent color. What do you all think I should do about this? I am upset because I was finally getting my hair to grow out the way I wanted it and now this I am all for a smear campaign but this place is somewhat prestigious in that area

[Kloud9]

Originally posted by darling1
i have had 1 experience where i dealt with a stylist who had me in a chair for hours. my suggestion is to decide what you want and not tolerate the ghetto business practices. continue to do the research to find the best. you may have to sacrifice a few more dollars for quality but at least you wont be in a chair forever and a day.


essence magazine usually has a listing from time to time on the best salons overall.

if you have medium to long hair, dominicans are the best. the do what is called a doobie which, if i remember is a roller set. they are very cheap!

I miss my doobies lazy California stylists don't do them out here

[ladylike]

Originally posted by Kloud9
I am all for a smear campaign but this place is somewhat prestigious in that area

((rocking back and forth and in my best Miss Celie voice)): Smear it.

[SummerChild]

Soror, I have recently moved to LA. Know any good hairdressers? And why is everyone telling me that most women get presses in Southern Cali? I don't have the time or patience for somebody to stand over me frying my hair every other week. Then what about when I want to go get my hair wet at the beach (was just there yesterday). How do people do the press in such a water-plentiful place?

SC

Originally posted by Kloud9
I miss my doobies lazy California stylists don't do them out here

[UrbanizdSkillz]

Horror Story: I have fairly long hair when I press it so a few years ago, I wanted to get my hair pressed. I went to the salon for what I THOUGHT was going to be a routine wash and press. So the beautician tells me I need a trim and so far I'm cool with it but I start to notice that she's been "trimming" for awhile now. The hair that was once down my back is now at my neck. This chick cut SEVERAL inches of my hair off. I was LIVID but my hair has since grown back to it's original length but I will NEVER, EVER, go to a salon AGAIN!

[Kloud9]

Originally posted by UrbanizdSkillz
Horror Story: I have fairly long hair when I press it so a few years ago, I wanted to get my hair pressed. I went to the salon for what I THOUGHT was going to be a routine wash and press. So the beautician tells me I need a trim and so far I'm cool with it but I start to notice that she's been "trimming" for awhile now. The hair that was once down my back is now at my neck. This chick cut SEVERAL inches of my hair off. I was LIVID but my hair has since grown back to it's original length but I will NEVER, EVER, go to a salon AGAIN!

I hope you didn't pay her. One of my good friends beat a beautician down for doing the exact same thing. I really think some of them do it on purpose