Same-Semester Initiation for Fraternities - Page 3

Tom Earp · #31 05-23-2005, 04:55 PM

Making Grades are GLOs prioritys first off for specific reasons.

But Making New Associates have study periods now is considered Hazing!

It should be a requirment for not only Newbies, but Actives too. If grades are not made, they do not get Initiated, or Actives get suspended.

So, we are all losers in this battle. At My Alma Mater, the GLOs can get Mid Term (Semesters) Grades, but basically is passing or not passing.

So, there would be the possibility of Intitiating during the same Semester.

emb021 · #32 05-23-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by IFC Advisor
I'm an IFC Advisor at a small, private university. As of right now, the university requires same-semester initiation of new members and does not allow any carry-overs. I am interested in revisiting this requirement and looking at whether or not to make some changes. I can't just say that we're going to do it, though. I need to have done some research and go to my Associate Dean with information.

I am a proponent of this requirement on campuses where hazing is a problem, and most people I talk to share a similar opinion. At our campus, however, we don't have a hazing problem, and we don't have a setting that would promote it (no chapter houses, lodges, etc).

I would like to see if there are other ideas or opinions out there-especially from other campus personnel or hq staff members. What would be pros and cons of making a change or keeping things as they are?

I have no idea why hazing being a problem or not should have an inpact.

I can only give you information from my organization. For us, same semester is not only do-able, but the normal way of working. We do not have a GPA requirement, so that doesn't affect us.

Our National Pledging Standard sets a pledge period of 6-10 weeks. Tack on Rush week (usually 2-3 week of school), makes this do-able within a normal 16 week semester. With the chapter I work with, we normally have our initiations (pledges into Brothers) a couple of weeks or so before the end of semester. Typically, the only reason a pledge would carry over to the next semester is if they were missing requirements, and being given a chance to complete them, ideally before the next pledge class is started.

Hope this helps.

IFC Advisor · #33 06-10-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by emb021
I have no idea why hazing being a problem or not should have an inpact.

One reason that many organizations and universities have gone to requiring same semester initiation is that it cuts down on the amount of time available for a "Hell Week" or "I-Week." In the not too far distant past, waiting till, say January, to initiate Fall new members, provided a lengthened time frame during which new members were subject to activities that could be mentally and physically harmful.

I even know of campuses who allow fraternities not to initiate spring new members until August or September, after everyone returns, and after grades are known.

Universities and national organizations, again, think that requiring the same semester initiation eliminates hell week for many people. Campuses where hell week was/is a tradition or a standard, I think, need to require same semester initiation and get the activities over with.

whittleschmeg · #34 06-10-2005, 02:46 PM

Don't most national sororities have a time frame in which the sorority must abide before the new members must be initiated as sisters?? I know that for Phi Sig our visions prgram is a four week program and the girls must be initiated by then......

flirt5721 · #35 06-10-2005, 04:13 PM

For Alpha Xi Delta the new member period is from an minimum of 5 weeks to a maximum for 8 week from the day the NM signs their Bid.

Same semester initiation does has some positive and some negatives, but it works out well at my school.

Tom Earp · #36 06-10-2005, 04:34 PM

Granted APO is under a differenet structure and restraint. But What Time Line is enough time for New Members long enough to learn about Their Possible New Greek Organization and Local Chapter?

Is not History something important?

If not, History will be lost on Both Levels.

Trust Me, I did not have enough timme to learn much about LXA History, and have been learning a ton of things on GC from My Brothers and studying after 30 + Years.

Is this much the same as We are not trying to teach the new leaders of this and other countrys by just passing them?

flirt5721 · #37 06-10-2005, 04:45 PM

My new member period was about 6 weeks. I didn't learn everything that I would have liked but have have learned more as an active (going on 3 yrs) then as new member. I don't think there is a long enough time for new member to learn everything there is about the Fraternity, their is always something new to learn.

WCUgirl · #38 06-10-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by flirt5721
My new member period was about 6 weeks. I didn't learn everything that I would have liked but have have learned more as an active (going on 3 yrs) then as new member. I don't think there is a long enough time for new member to learn everything there is about the Fraternity, their is always something new to learn.

I'm three years out of school and still learning!

Tom Earp · #39 06-10-2005, 05:43 PM

HAHA, not to try to be funny, but, as the Founder of the Local and an Actual Active Member for one Year before Graduation, it is tough for sure.

I Graduated in 1967 and am still learning to this very day.

Check LXA Thread and look at the Dailey Facts Thread.

Talk about a lot of interaction!

There is so much History Behind each GLO that is missed.

It is missed by New Members not learning about Their Respective GLOs and trying to keep it alive.

History is the building blocks of each of us.

Seek and Ye Shall Learn, dont and it can be lost forever.