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04-27-2005, 11:38 PM
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Re: Re: Re: This too will change...
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BlueReign my sistah,
I meant no personal offense in my comment. I acknowledge the fact that women choose to do certain things to enhance their looks. I respect that fact. It just makes me sad when I see people try so hard to change what GOD gave them just to achieve some ill-perceived notion of beauty-which might include brightening their complexion.
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My brother, you know I'm not the least bit offended. I just hope that if I were to ever meet you face to face you won't be offended by the lipstick on your collar.
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04-28-2005, 08:30 AM
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no comment!!!
Awwh Dayum!!!!!!!
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07-09-2005, 12:52 AM
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This hits home
I can personally relate to this. I was teased as a child and as an adult. The pain I have visited......  I woulod not wish on my enemy. I used to pray a lot. WOW does this bring back sadness to me.
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08-13-2005, 08:29 AM
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MIXED UP
RECENTLY I WATCHED A SHOW ABOUT THE LOUISIANA CULTURE OF CREOLES ( A MIXTURE OF FRENCH, INDIAN, CAUCASIAN AND AFRICAN). LIVING IN THE SOUTH, I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE TEND TO THINK THAT IF ONE HAS ONE OUNCE OF BLACK BLOOD IN THEM, THEN THEY ARE COMPLETELY BLACK AND SHOULD ACKNOWLEGE THAT THEY ARE "BLACK" AND NOT "OTHER" (EX. STANDARDIZED TEST OR JOB APPLICATIONS) WHAT DOES THE ROOM THINK ABOUT THIS?
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08-18-2005, 12:23 AM
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Re: MIXED UP
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Originally posted by KERABE
RECENTLY I WATCHED A SHOW ABOUT THE LOUISIANA CULTURE OF CREOLES ( A MIXTURE OF FRENCH, INDIAN, CAUCASIAN AND AFRICAN). LIVING IN THE SOUTH, I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE TEND TO THINK THAT IF ONE HAS ONE OUNCE OF BLACK BLOOD IN THEM, THEN THEY ARE COMPLETELY BLACK AND SHOULD ACKNOWLEGE THAT THEY ARE "BLACK" AND NOT "OTHER" (EX. STANDARDIZED TEST OR JOB APPLICATIONS) WHAT DOES THE ROOM THINK ABOUT THIS?
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I think people should be entitled to classify themselves as what they want. They should be allowed their preferences no matter how deep the prejudices you may see in it....as long as it is not physically hurting anyone. Far too often, blacks want others to "ride" with them. If you don't want to label yourself as black, fine. Just don't try to come up off the benefits afforded to blacks. But if you are mixed with something else, then logically, you aren't completely black, to me.
I'm Creole, and please note that Creoles are blacks mixed with Native American, French, or Spanish, while Cajuns are whites mixed with Native American, French, or Spanish.
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08-18-2005, 03:18 AM
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Re: MIXED UP
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Originally posted by KERABE
LIVING IN THE SOUTH, I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE TEND TO THINK THAT IF ONE HAS ONE OUNCE OF BLACK BLOOD IN THEM, THEN THEY ARE COMPLETELY BLACK AND SHOULD ACKNOWLEGE THAT THEY ARE "BLACK" AND NOT "OTHER" (EX. STANDARDIZED TEST OR JOB APPLICATIONS) WHAT DOES THE ROOM THINK ABOUT THIS?
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That didn't begin with "us" though. If I recall Southern Bigotry 101 correctly - the "one drop rule" was invented by Southern racists and meant that if you had one drop of black blood in you - you were black and could be used as a slave.
As far as racial identification - whatever floats your boat as long as its healthy. In saying that, I mean - if your mother is Irish and dad is AA - and instead of saying "I'm black" you say "I'm part Irish, part black" - fine. But if you simply say "I'm Irish" - because you are ashamed of having AA in you, or tend to switch it up depending upon the people you are around - that person has identity issues. Some people also believe that you are whatever race your mother is...
Anyway... this reminded me of Halle Berry in Queen ..."I's negra!"
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08-18-2005, 02:58 PM
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Re: MIXED UP
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Originally posted by KERABE
LIVING IN THE SOUTH, I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE TEND TO THINK THAT IF ONE HAS ONE OUNCE OF BLACK BLOOD IN THEM, THEN THEY ARE COMPLETELY BLACK AND SHOULD ACKNOWLEGE THAT THEY ARE "BLACK" AND NOT "OTHER" (EX. STANDARDIZED TEST OR JOB APPLICATIONS) WHAT DOES THE ROOM THINK ABOUT THIS?
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Ironically, the reverse is true--so, I've read and heard from folks visiting down there--that in Argentina, if you have one drop of caucasian blood in you, you are caucasian...
I don't know how I think about this issue for other folks. Personally, I have no problem with choosing to keep my African descent and my looks upon me--although my genetics and inheritance would dictate more Native American blood, as well as Irish blood in me than purely West African blood--or elsewhere in Africa. I love my African descent in America. I love being Black.
Even when I see and experience atrocities that one should never have to face, I still love being Black. It is not about it being a "cool" thing to do, or that I am trying to fit into the "in crowd"... I actually think it is about my Spiritual self being deeply rooted into the cultural seeds (Asili) of the true nature and expressions (utamaawazo) of Africa... It's that one drop thing--call it a single nucleotide polymorphism in my sodium-potassium transporter genes, which cause hypertension in Blacks and comes directly from Africa--I love it...
As far as some white folks loving themselves because they are white--fine with me... I don't see a problem with it, personally...
Everyone ought to love the skin that they are in... Because that's the only skin that you are gonna get...
Unless you are Michael Jackson... But then I just saw Adult Swim the other day and they showed that he was abducted by aliens when his hair was burned in the 1980's Pepsi commercial and he was switched by the aliens with this looney tune we see now...
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08-18-2005, 03:21 PM
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Re: ....
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Originally posted by Confucius
Many young black males feel the way that your students feel about what is considered beautiful.
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Sadly, many of them are young DARK black men themselves. I wonder what their mamas look like
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08-18-2005, 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Exquisite5
Maybe if they read Carter G. Woodson's The Miseducation of the Negro they will see how we have be systimatically mind-fu@%ed and it will be easier for them to understand how that extends into our formulation of beauty.
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Ah, a most EXCELLENT read. They are at the perfect age for this book, too.
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08-18-2005, 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by MissMonika
another is:
The Color Complex by Kathy Russell. This book has a well defined definition of the Color Complex in the first chapter.
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She actually has a video out on Color Complex issues and I found it very innovating and informative. It is, however, from the early 90s but great nonetheless.
Soror Wonderful, I strongly suggest finding footage on Color Complex from Kathy Russell. I remember it being a required viewing when I was in undergrad and it enlightenend some of the [i]struck[i] students then
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09-18-2005, 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by KERABE
RECENTLY I WATCHED A SHOW ABOUT THE LOUISIANA CULTURE OF CREOLES ( A MIXTURE OF FRENCH, INDIAN, CAUCASIAN AND AFRICAN). LIVING IN THE SOUTH, I KNOW THAT MOST PEOPLE TEND TO THINK THAT IF ONE HAS ONE OUNCE OF BLACK BLOOD IN THEM, THEN THEY ARE COMPLETELY BLACK AND SHOULD ACKNOWLEGE THAT THEY ARE "BLACK" AND NOT "OTHER" (EX. STANDARDIZED TEST OR JOB APPLICATIONS) WHAT DOES THE ROOM THINK ABOUT THIS?
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The POV that 'one ounce of black blood makes you black' is really more popular as myth than it was as reality. In Plessy v. Ferguson, the court addressed this very matter:
"It is true that the question of the proportion of colored blood necessary to constitute a colored person, as distinguished from a white person, is one upon which there is a difference of opinion in the different states; some holding that any visible admixture of black blood stamps the person as belonging to the colored race (State v. Chavers, 5 Jones [N. C.] 1); others, that it depends upon the preponderance of blood (Gray v. State, 4 Ohio, 354; Monroe v. Collins, 17 Ohio St. 665); and still others, that the predominance of white blood must only be in the proportion of three-fourths (People v. Dean, 14 Mich. 406; Jones v. Com., 80 Va. 544)."
And to follow up PrettyGirl03's explanation as to what Creoles are, you may want to visit http://www.frenchcreoles.com for more information.
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09-13-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by southernelle25
The POV that 'one ounce of black blood makes you black' is really more popular as myth than it was as reality. In Plessy v. Ferguson, the court addressed this very matter:
"It is true that the question of the proportion of colored blood necessary to constitute a colored person, as distinguished from a white person, is one upon which there is a difference of opinion in the different states; some holding that any visible admixture of black blood stamps the person as belonging to the colored race (State v. Chavers, 5 Jones [N. C.] 1); others, that it depends upon the preponderance of blood (Gray v. State, 4 Ohio, 354; Monroe v. Collins, 17 Ohio St. 665); and still others, that the predominance of white blood must only be in the proportion of three-fourths (People v. Dean, 14 Mich. 406; Jones v. Com., 80 Va. 544)."
And to follow up PrettyGirl03's explanation as to what Creoles are, you may want to visit http://www.frenchcreoles.com for more information. 
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Websites like this is the reason why these children feel the way that they do. Since when did creole become a race?
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09-13-2006, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by icebrAKA
Websites like this is the reason why these children feel the way that they do. Since when did creole become a race?
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I did not realize I had already responded to this post some time ago...lol
I think I've seen that site before, and yes I hate the notion that Creoles are some other race...lololol That's like saying southerners are some other race than black or white...lolol
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09-13-2006, 12:28 PM
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I did not realize I had already responded to this post some time ago...lol
I think I've seen that site before, and yes I hate the notion that Creoles are some other race...lololol That's like saying southerners are some other race than black or white...lolol
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You know!! The one good thing that I did see on the site that I did like is the fact that one of the guys under the being creole section stated that "being creole is a culture"! I couldn't have said it better! Growing up in Southern Lousisiana was very different!
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09-15-2006, 11:37 AM
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When I saw this it reminded me of the discussion above about the one-drop rule.
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