New Pope

[Beryana]

Originally posted by kddani
I'm just saying that you're coming off very authoritative. Last time I checked, you weren't a church official. So you're in no place to be telling people that they're not really Catholics and telling them what they're to think or believe.

How on earth do you know that priests will never be able to marry and that women will never be able to become priests? You don't. A lot of things have changed in this world over the past 2000 years and they will continue to change.

Take a step back. You're not the pope. I recognize your knowledge of the church but chill the heck out!

Actually, I'm not upset. You don't know my role in the Church, you don't even know me.

As far as things changing, once again, the issue of married and women priests are not items that will be changing unless God comes down and changes them himself because those are issues that the Church does not have the power to change her stance on.

[Taualumna]

Beryana, you still never know how the church is going to change. I'm sure many years ago, people were saying that the church will NEVER hold mass in any language other than Latin. My mother went to a Catholic high school in the 60s and remembered monthly full masses and having to memorize the service because she didn't fully understand everything. I also understand that years ago, babies were supposed to be baptized by their eighth day, but that is certainly not true now.

And btw, what is your role in the church if you don't mind us asking?

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by Beryana
Actually, I'm not upset. You don't know my role in the Church, you don't even know me.

As far as things changing, once again, the issue of married and women priests are not items that will be changing unless God comes down and changes them himself because those are issues that the Church does not have the power to change her stance on.

What is your role in the Church? If you don't want to answer, please forgive my nosiness. You just seem to know a lot more about Catholicism and the Church than most lay people.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by Beryana
Actually, I'm not upset. You don't know my role in the Church, you don't even know me.

As far as things changing, once again, the issue of married and women priests are not items that will be changing unless God comes down and changes them himself because those are issues that the Church does not have the power to change her stance on.

I'm not sure if God really cares if women can be priests or not because the many Protestant faiths ordain women. Protestant and (most?) Eastern Orthodox priests are also allowed to marry. Last time I checked, Christians believed in ONE GOD, and everyone is treated equally. Why would God treat Roman Catholics one way, Orthodox another and the various Protestant denominations yet another way? THINK ABOUT IT!

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

I'm sure a lot of people didn't think Vatican II would happen either but it did.

And when God asks me to explain my life to him on judgment day, I will have NO problem doing it and will do it with a clear conscience.

And you must be pretty sheltered to claim that there is no shortage of priests. That's pretty much been admitted.

And coming off as all high and mighty doesn't help the Catholic Church one iota. People like you are why people like me have a problem with them. You are no better than the rest of us so stop acting like you are. You're a woman after all. You're basically a second class citizen in the eyes of the church so how can you know what's really going on.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by Beryana
Actually, you may not like it because I'm not agreeing with you, I am actually loving you more than you know.

A quick question back at you. . . .what you think about ANY Catholic who has sex outside of marriage, attends Mass on Sundays, wears a cross, reads the Bible, etc? This IS the same issue and receives the same amount of prayers.

THAT is truly loving your neighbor.

You're not disagreeing with me, you're acting like you're Holier than Thou.

What do I think of Catholics who have sex outside of marriage? Rock on with your bad selves. I'm one of them, I know many of them. And if you wana pray for us, then go for it.

[kddani]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
What is your role in the Church? If you don't want to answer, please forgive my nosiness. You just seem to know a lot more about Catholicism and the Church than most lay people.

Ditto the curiousness, especially to see what position a WOMAN has in the church. Hell, women can't even be ushers in my church. Let's see, in my church women can be lectors, eucharistic ministers, lead the choir. Outside of the actual ceremony of mass they can teach CCD and i'm assuming can serve on various church boards.

Wondering which of those positions can put a person in a position to lecture all of us and tell us that we're not Catholics. And gives them the inside scoop as to what will happen in the church for the rest of eternity.

Another example of something that changed that many people never thought would: girls can be alter servers..

[chideltjen]

Originally posted by kddani
I'm just saying that you're coming off very authoritative. Last time I checked, you weren't a church official. So you're in no place to be telling people that they're not really Catholics and telling them what they're to think or believe.

How on earth do you know that priests will never be able to marry and that women will never be able to become priests? You don't. A lot of things have changed in this world over the past 2000 years and they will continue to change.

Take a step back. You're not the pope. I recognize your knowledge of the church but chill the heck out!

I agree. A relationship with God is a personal one. I don't need outside sources telling me HOW to be a Catholic and how I'm less of a Catholic then they are because I have slightly different beliefs. I know plenty of Catholics that don't agree with EVERY piece of the doctrine. And I learned from all of them.

And someone else mentioned on another thread that electing people other than unmarried men to priesthood ISN'T doctrine at all. It's policy. But since the Church is a slow mover, it will take some time. But to say it will NEVER happen is unlikely... perhaps not in your lifetime, but when the Church sees that the US is struggling with ordaining priests, they are gonna have to do something.

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally posted by ariesrising
This thread has reassured me that not being Christian was a great decision.

I promise, not all Catholics are like that.

"I have issues with anyone who treats faith as a burden instead of a blessing. You people don't celebrate your faith; you mourn it." - Dogma

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by kddani
Ditto the curiousness, especially to see what position a WOMAN has in the church. Hell, women can't even be ushers in my church. Let's see, in my church women can be lectors, eucharistic ministers, lead the choir. Outside of the actual ceremony of mass they can teach CCD and i'm assuming can serve on various church boards.

Wondering which of those positions can put a person in a position to lecture all of us and tell us that we're not Catholics. And gives them the inside scoop as to what will happen in the church for the rest of eternity.

Another example of something that changed that many people never thought would: girls can be alter servers..

Women can also be nuns.

I really don't think that Beryana was lecturing people or being holier than though. I think that she was stating the Catholic Church's policies and teachings.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Women can also be nuns.

I really don't think that Beryana was lecturing people or being holier than though. I think that she was stating the Catholic Church's policies and teachings.

Anyone who tells someone that they are NOT Catholic because they don't believe some of it's "teachings" IS acting holier than thou.

[kddani]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Anyone who tells someone that they are NOT Catholic because they don't believe some of it's "teachings" IS acting holier than thou.

Exactly. Saying what will or will not EVER happen, telling someone that they are NOT Catholic, etc. is holier than though.

And no kidding women can be nuns, but if she was a nun i'd think we'd know by now

[Rudey]

You are all welcome to convert to Judaism.

-Rudey

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by Rudey
You are all welcome to convert to Judaism.

-Rudey

Or Zen Buddhism.

-RC
--Seriously, it's helped me to chill the fuck out and stop being a pedantic douche

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by KSig RC
Or Zen Buddhism.

-RC
--Seriously, it's helped me to chill the fuck out and stop being a pedantic douche

i heard you were still a douche.. i gues sjust not pedantic.