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Old 09-26-2005, 04:00 PM
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Hmmm...a sequel? Well, if he chooses to continue the Greek theme, I hope he consults with some Greeks to give us a better portrayal. And I hope he gives a more balanced view of Black women. Has anyone read "African American Fraternities and Sororities: The Legacy and the Vision"? There is a great essay on how Black women are protrayed negatively in "School Daze". Its a great read and very thought-provoking.
I hope that the portrayal of African American women is improved, because it was a bit lacking in the original. As for Greeks, I hope that the portrayal is more balanced as well. Quiet as it's kept, a grip of us giggle and even take pride in the portrayal in the original, as flawed as it was.
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Old 09-27-2005, 12:05 AM
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I did read the essay on School Daze recently and it was very intersting.

If Spike is going to do a sequel on School Daze, I hope he does his research. Greek life among the D9 is different now than it was when the movie came out in '87-'88. I think it should reflect the problems of today.
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Old 09-27-2005, 08:54 AM
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Quiet as it's kept, a grip of us giggle and even take pride in the portrayal in the original, as flawed as it was.
Sistergreek, I agree with this!

When I saw the movie, it took me back to my college days and watching the sweethearts acting like it was their special mission to take care of the frats. They would look at you with much attitude if you dared try to step on the plots (my campus did and still does have plots for frats, and now sorors) like they had personally made the down payment on that piece of land. This might get me in trouble, but they always seemed like Sorority wannabees to me (mind you, this was when I was in college some x number of years ago!).

But I loved the original - had to go out and buy it I loved it so much, and yes, things have changed from the time that the original was made. From what I saw in college, I thought that the movie was very closely related to Fraternity/Sorority life during that time.

Aaaah, the memories!
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Old 10-09-2005, 07:53 PM
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Can one of you explain exactly how greek life was depicted in the movie? I haven't seen it. But come on you some of it holds true for some chapters and orgs.
Watch the movie. It's a new Black Classic.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:01 AM
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I'm not a member of a GLO but saw the movie when it first came out. I think I was in my mid-teens (okay, I'm dating myself). I found the movie to be a mixture of fact and fiction. The intra-racial color discrimination issues can be found outside of Black Greek Life so I thought that was a stretch to attach it to fraternities or sororities. The educated vs. non-educated and class issues within the Black community were not limited to Black Greeks. Why should BGLOs shoulder the blame alone for those issues? And were was the representation of BGLO's doing community service?

When I saw the film, initially, I remembered Dap's girlfriend trying to justify her decision to pledge and mentioning community service but no one was trying to hear that. The irony was when I returned home and began college two years later, I had the same conversation with my parents and they refused to support my decision to pledge because they too weren't trying to hear about the work these orgs. do in the community. All people focused on was BGLO's changing a person. My contention to this day is that if a person is going to change, they don't need membership in any org. to do that.

Fortunately, I saw the movie during a summer program for high school students at UC Santa Barbara and the only Black female resident assistant was a Delta and she gave us an opportunity to ask generalized questions about Greek Life. I think the reason why I was able to separate the fact from fiction in my later years was because I had someone introduce me to Black Greek Life who was a part of that community but who also wanted us to be informed, regardless of whether we choose to pursue pledging a sorority or not.

I think the movie can be a good teaching tool for BGLO's working with youth. But I do think that there should be some degree of balance when giving this information such as talking about the reality that hazing isn't 100% wiped out. When I was at UCSB in 1990 (again, dating myself), the member intake process was not in place and the Delta who showed us School Daze informed us about the real possibility of us experiencing some hazing. While much of the pre-1992 hazing is gone, there are enough cases in the news to warrant having a discussion with young people about it. School Daze's value (even with its limitations) is that it provides a springboard from which BGLO's can have discussions about the realities of Greek Life which will hopefully change the image of these organizations.

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Old 10-28-2005, 09:14 AM
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School Daze is on Comedy Central right now.
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Old 10-28-2005, 09:19 AM
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Oh HAYLE naw!

They edited out the Alphas!!!!!
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Old 10-28-2005, 06:53 PM
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Oh HAYLE naw!

They edited out the Alphas!!!!!
Yeah, they edited out a lot of stuff which is why I didn't even bother to watch it. They cut out important elements:
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Old 10-28-2005, 07:16 PM
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I'm not a member of a GLO but saw the movie when it first came out. I think I was in my mid-teens (okay, I'm dating myself). I found the movie to be a mixture of fact and fiction. The intra-racial color discrimination issues can be found outside of Black Greek Life so I thought that was a stretch to attach it to fraternities or sororities. The educated vs. non-educated and class issues within the Black community were not limited to Black Greeks. Why should BGLOs shoulder the blame alone for those issues? And were was the representation of BGLO's doing community service?

When I saw the film, initially, I remembered Dap's girlfriend trying to justify her decision to pledge and mentioning community service but no one was trying to hear that. The irony was when I returned home and began college two years later, I had the same conversation with my parents and they refused to support my decision to pledge because they too weren't trying to hear about the work these orgs. do in the community. All people focused on was BGLO's changing a person. My contention to this day is that if a person is going to change, they don't need membership in any org. to do that.

Fortunately, I saw the movie during a summer program for high school students at UC Santa Barbara and the only Black female resident assistant was a Delta and she gave us an opportunity to ask generalized questions about Greek Life. I think the reason why I was able to separate the fact from fiction in my later years was because I had someone introduce me to Black Greek Life who was a part of that community but who also wanted us to be informed, regardless of whether we choose to pursue pledging a sorority or not.

I think the movie can be a good teaching tool for BGLO's working with youth. But I do think that there should be some degree of balance when giving this information such as talking about the reality that hazing isn't 100% wiped out. When I was at UCSB in 1990 (again, dating myself), the member intake process was not in place and the Delta who showed us School Daze informed us about the real possibility of us experiencing some hazing. While much of the pre-1992 hazing is gone, there are enough cases in the news to warrant having a discussion with young people about it. School Daze's value (even with its limitations) is that it provides a springboard from which BGLO's can have discussions about the realities of Greek Life which will hopefully change the image of these organizations.

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Hey, I did the UC Santa Barbara summer program the summer before my senior year. It solidified my decision to attend an HBCU.
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I'm not a member of a GLO but saw the movie when it first came out. I think I was in my mid-teens (okay, I'm dating myself). I found the movie to be a mixture of fact and fiction. The intra-racial color discrimination issues can be found outside of Black Greek Life so I thought that was a stretch to attach it to fraternities or sororities. The educated vs. non-educated and class issues within the Black community were not limited to Black Greeks. Why should BGLOs shoulder the blame alone for those issues? And were was the representation of BGLO's doing community service?

When I saw the film, initially, I remembered Dap's girlfriend trying to justify her decision to pledge and mentioning community service but no one was trying to hear that. The irony was when I returned home and began college two years later, I had the same conversation with my parents and they refused to support my decision to pledge because they too weren't trying to hear about the work these orgs. do in the community. All people focused on was BGLO's changing a person. My contention to this day is that if a person is going to change, they don't need membership in any org. to do that.

Fortunately, I saw the movie during a summer program for high school students at UC Santa Barbara and the only Black female resident assistant was a Delta and she gave us an opportunity to ask generalized questions about Greek Life. I think the reason why I was able to separate the fact from fiction in my later years was because I had someone introduce me to Black Greek Life who was a part of that community but who also wanted us to be informed, regardless of whether we choose to pursue pledging a sorority or not.

I think the movie can be a good teaching tool for BGLO's working with youth. But I do think that there should be some degree of balance when giving this information such as talking about the reality that hazing isn't 100% wiped out. When I was at UCSB in 1990 (again, dating myself), the member intake process was not in place and the Delta who showed us School Daze informed us about the real possibility of us experiencing some hazing. While much of the pre-1992 hazing is gone, there are enough cases in the news to warrant having a discussion with young people about it. School Daze's value (even with its limitations) is that it provides a springboard from which BGLO's can have discussions about the realities of Greek Life which will hopefully change the image of these organizations.

PhDiva
*bumping*
While i too am not a member of a GLO, I saw this movie back in 88 and I was 7 years old(My Mom was a big spike lee fan), when it came out on VHS it became one of my favorite movies and still is. While it gives a fictional view of BGLO's it was my window to seeing what it could be like to go to college and Join a BGLO. While i was growing up and since then I have learned that joining an Org should be a decision one should not make based on Partying , wearing letters, or acting like you are better than others because of your entry into an org. While i have my aspirations to join a BGLO, I am making sure that i am doing it for the right reasons. I have many friends that are members of BGLO's to encourage me but for right now school and my family is my top priority. I support those that have crossed into their organizations and bust their butt's doing community service projects for the communites. I hope that with the second movie that Spike takes the time to show the good things that BGLO's do for everyone. I feel that it is time for the NPHC orgs to be known for more than parties, stepshows, and hazing.
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