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12-10-2005, 05:52 PM
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i think its because everyone is more money motivated now. Ever since Cash Money records came out with Bling Bling, everyone is just out to make a quick buck. Theres very few mainstream conscious rappers, you got Common, and Talib Kweli, and Eminem when he feels like it, but thats about it...
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11-28-2006, 06:13 PM
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Now, I was browsing google, looking up "90's rap", because I liked the beats and messages. I assure you, I will probably not come to this site again, because I am neither a Frat Boy or a Sororiety Girl. I am simply a child. I am 13. I think you guys should get an actual idea of what children are thinking instead of saying this is what I think the children think. Mind you, I am not a mainstream singleminded teen.
Alright, I grew up listening to rap. My brothers would play countless artists that I can't remember the names of. The beats. OH THE BEATS!!! The beats alone from some of these artists are just enough to listen to.
90's rap had messages beneath surfaces. Mostly, 90's rap could be interpreted differently, people could look for the bad stuff on the surface, or the inner messages that are so easy to find if you are looking for them. Let's take Ice Cube's "Check Yo Self". On the outside, it seems that he is boasting about himself being dangerous, but if you listen deeper, he is putting out a message that the "cool image" of being a gangsta, selling drugs, gang fights, and ultimately going to prison is a bad way to go. He is saying check yourself if you are hangin' out with a gang check yourself to a kid in the ghetto considering selling drugs cos you need the money. (sorry for my punctuation, or lack thereof) He is also saying, prison isn't a walk in the park because some of the raps about being there don't graze the surface of really being in prison. If you want to live a good life, check yourself. Because shotgun shells are bad for your health, along with big D's in your mouth.
Also, along with the concern of the term "bitch", today's mainstream artists are using it frivolously. 2pac is definitely not to blame for this. Although he was a culprit of using this term, he only used it towards a certain group. He said himself, when he is saying bitches, he is talking about women who are sluts, users, and ass holes. He said he had a respect for single mothers and working women who are trying their best to succeed. He had/has a great respect for women, because he grew up only with his Black Panther mother. 2pac had a softside for respectable women, and he shows that through some of his songs.
Also, I think rap in the 90's was our modern day blues. We could express our feelings through art. I think once you take struggle out of the game, you lose alot out of rap. Once struggle is out, feeling is gone. It isn't really personal anymore when it is mainstream. So, I agree. Buy a blackalicious album, or a lyrics born, or Lateef the Truthspeaker, or a J5 album, or hell, buy some cool DJ's albums if you are into beats such as Kid Koala, or DJ Scratch Picklz. Don't resort to mainstream crap. Mainstream is like what parents say about T.V, it melts your mind.
All from a mind of a 13 yr. old.
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11-28-2006, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by madfresh
Now, I was browsing google, looking up "90's rap", because I liked the beats and messages. I assure you, I will probably not come to this site again, because I am neither a Frat Boy or a Sororiety Girl. I am simply a child. I am 13. I think you guys should get an actual idea of what children are thinking instead of saying this is what I think the children think. Mind you, I am not a mainstream singleminded teen.
Alright, I grew up listening to rap. My brothers would play countless artists that I can't remember the names of. The beats. OH THE BEATS!!! The beats alone from some of these artists are just enough to listen to.
90's rap had messages beneath surfaces. Mostly, 90's rap could be interpreted differently, people could look for the bad stuff on the surface, or the inner messages that are so easy to find if you are looking for them. Let's take Ice Cube's "Check Yo Self". On the outside, it seems that he is boasting about himself being dangerous, but if you listen deeper, he is putting out a message that the "cool image" of being a gangsta, selling drugs, gang fights, and ultimately going to prison is a bad way to go. He is saying check yourself if you are hangin' out with a gang check yourself to a kid in the ghetto considering selling drugs cos you need the money. (sorry for my punctuation, or lack thereof) He is also saying, prison isn't a walk in the park because some of the raps about being there don't graze the surface of really being in prison. If you want to live a good life, check yourself. Because shotgun shells are bad for your health, along with big D's in your mouth.
Also, along with the concern of the term "bitch", today's mainstream artists are using it frivolously. 2pac is definitely not to blame for this. Although he was a culprit of using this term, he only used it towards a certain group. He said himself, when he is saying bitches, he is talking about women who are sluts, users, and ass holes. He said he had a respect for single mothers and working women who are trying their best to succeed. He had/has a great respect for women, because he grew up only with his Black Panther mother. 2pac had a softside for respectable women, and he shows that through some of his songs.
Also, I think rap in the 90's was our modern day blues. We could express our feelings through art. I think once you take struggle out of the game, you lose alot out of rap. Once struggle is out, feeling is gone. It isn't really personal anymore when it is mainstream. So, I agree. Buy a blackalicious album, or a lyrics born, or Lateef the Truthspeaker, or a J5 album, or hell, buy some cool DJ's albums if you are into beats such as Kid Koala, or DJ Scratch Picklz. Don't resort to mainstream crap. Mainstream is like what parents say about T.V, it melts your mind.
All from a mind of a 13 yr. old.
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I'm intrigued by the fact that you took the time to post this. Yet you didn't notice that the thread was a year old.
I think it's funny that you take such ownership of 90's rap though. If you're only thirteen you didn't really experience much the 90's...
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11-28-2006, 06:56 PM
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Yeah, I admit, I do not remember a whole lot, and I am frustrated I cannot remember certain tracks, and I am definitely not claiming ownership. I was just showing that rap is what you take it for. Still, 90's rap was better. WAIT!!! I think we are on a trend here... Before, rock was the devil's work but now business men listen to The Stones. Could this trend be true in rap? Someday, on our Golden Oldies channels, will we have 50 yr. olds listening to Gangsta Rap and telling children that those where the good ol' days? And gas was[I]only[I]$3 a gallon? I'll have to find out.
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11-28-2006, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by madfresh
Yeah, I admit, I do not remember a whole lot, and I am frustrated I cannot remember certain tracks, and I am definitely not claiming ownership. I was just showing that rap is what you take it for. Still, 90's rap was better. WAIT!!! I think we are on a trend here... Before, rock was the devil's work but now business men listen to The Stones. Could this trend be true in rap? Someday, on our Golden Oldies channels, will we have 50 yr. olds listening to Gangsta Rap and telling children that those where the good ol' days? And gas was[I]only[I]$3 a gallon? I'll have to find out.
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The question is, what will our kids be listening to that we tell them to turn off? (And turn down I'm sure)
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11-29-2006, 10:56 AM
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One day I'll hear The chronic on an oldies station and pull over and be all sad and drive around like I'm still trying to be cool
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