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Old 04-23-2005, 05:19 PM
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apparently before this all came to a trial and the allegations were put out there his celeb friends tried to pull an intervention on him to get help and to say hey stay away from kids and he just refused from what i read somewhere. I tend to think too he doesnt see what he has done is wrong. He wont last five minutes let alone a minute in central prison. Maybe they will put him somehwere where he can get some serious help.
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Old 04-23-2005, 06:00 PM
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He is a weird man. He really has shifted the focus of the trial though. Now people aren't talking about the molestation, they're talking about his dramatic entrances into court.
Michael Jackson is really a master at this kind of thing.

Salon.com did an article a while back on how Michael has always played up his "weirdness" for publicity's sake. Some of the people quoted in the article even speculated that he had manufactured the child molestation charges for the attention. I'm not sure I buy it, but it's an interesting premise.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/03/26/jacko/

Either way he's cracked -- either he's molesting kids, or he's telling people he's molesting kids for attention. Neither one is normal.

That said, I have some major misgivings about the parents of this kid. They're perfectly happy to let him hang out with a man who's been accused of sexual molestation because he's giving them lots of expensive stuff for free? That's not exactly normal behavior either.
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Old 06-04-2005, 05:41 PM
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almost over.............

in my opinion, i think michael is guilty. but, i believe he will be set free.
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:06 AM
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almost over.............

in my opinion, i think michael is guilty. but, i believe he will be set free.
Ditto.
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:08 AM
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almost over.............

in my opinion, i think michael is guilty. but, i believe he will be set free.
After all, he has the best defense money can buy... even if he mortgages himself (and his properties) to the eyeballs.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:47 AM
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. I tend to think too he doesnt see what he has done is wrong.
There are a lot of "criminals" who don't think they have done anything wrong. A lot of women convicted of the munchor (SP) by proxy syndrome do not think that they have done anything wrong, but yet they try to poison their kids, ect. I am not saying Jackson is guilty or not guilty, i just have done research on the phycology of what goes into the women involved in this disease and i believe that what these women do, ie denial, can be attributed to mental problems and that these mental type problems can be exhibited in different ways in different people. With a basis of deniability that they have done nothing wrong. Of course i am simplifying things.

With all that i do agree with the statement why would parents let their child go stay that night with Jackson. I mean, free stuff is nice, but sleeping in someones bed is just weird and I would question a parents own mental problems with thinking that it is okay to let a young boy go stay with a man, especially in todays society.
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Old 06-07-2005, 10:21 AM
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...the munchor (SP) by proxy syndrome...
Munchausen-by-proxy syndrome. After the character in the Adventures of Baron Munchausen, notorious for spreading tall tales and outright lies.
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Old 06-07-2005, 12:00 PM
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and it's spelled psychology.... (sorry, pet peeve of mine...)

Actually, speaking of psychology and Michael Jackson...whaddya think of the recent trips to the ER...the last one was for "back pain"?

"Poor me, victim" role...or "Damn I ran outta oxycontin again!" role?

Those Axis II Disorders are a bitch, aren't they?

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Old 06-07-2005, 02:26 PM
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Guilty.

Child molesters are not tolerated in the joint. Don't drop the soap Mike.
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:30 PM
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Guilty.
Just out of curiosity, what are you basing this on?

And the prior 'charges' leveled by this kid (and his mother) - how do you reconcile those with your second point, about 'the joint'?
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Old 06-07-2005, 02:57 PM
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Not basing it on anything really, just my opinion after following the trial a bit.

I taught school for 9 years working with BED students. Most had a history of being sexually abused. My position entailed that I work closely with law enforcement. According to the police officers I worked with, child molesters are on the lowesr rung of the prison population.

I hope this clarifies my earlier post.
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:36 PM
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Not basing it on anything really, just my opinion after following the trial a bit.
That's fair - I'm just making sure people have actually been following the trial, because it's not nearly as 'open-and-shut' as people have claimed. The guy's a huge weirdo, and it's not hard to say "I could believe it," but that's a definite perversion of justice, and really pretty disgusting if people have only been following on E! or other trash.

It's actually going to wind up being a fascinating case study, IMO, but that's neither here nor there.

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I taught school for 9 years working with BED students. Most had a history of being sexually abused. My position entailed that I work closely with law enforcement. According to the police officers I worked with, child molesters are on the lowesr rung of the prison population.

I hope this clarifies my earlier post.
I wasn't disputing your assessment of molesters in prison - my point was to inquire how the sometimes-brutal treatment of these people in prison makes it more or less important to avoid mistakes in sentencing, especially considering the outrageous schemes and faulty plots that have been hatched by other people, and this boy specifically, with regard to celebrities.
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:44 PM
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almost over.............

in my opinion, i think michael is guilty. but, i believe he will be set free.
The prosecution has not done well in making its case; at least from the updates I've read, I'd be surprised if they got a conviction.

The guy sketches me out, but I think he's going to walk on this one.
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Old 06-07-2005, 08:18 PM
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The prosecution has not done well in making its case; at least from the updates I've read, I'd be surprised if they got a conviction.

The guy sketches me out, but I think he's going to walk on this one.
He might walk free from a court of law... but the Supreme Court of Public Opinion will hang his ass out to dry just like O.J.
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Old 06-13-2005, 04:05 PM
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Verdict for Jacko in 30 minutes

The verdict on Michael Jacksons molestation trial is set to be announced in about a 1/2 hour.
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