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02-27-2005, 03:11 PM
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Re: Canucks
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Canada will never have a military man as great as John Wayne (SX - USC). I've seen him win several battles on his own.
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My statesman, John Wayne (Winterset, IA) was an amazing man.
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02-27-2005, 04:56 PM
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Hmmm I'd like to see if any of you discussing Ann even have Ann's stats and credentials.
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02-27-2005, 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
Hmmm I'd like to see if any of you discussing Ann even have Ann's stats and credentials.
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Who cares about her credentials? What does it matter if she is dumb or smart? I do not think people think she is unintelligent. They are just making fun of her mistake because of her more extreme political views. People may view some of her views as dumb just as people may argue John Kerry’s or Bill Clinton’s views are stupid. Would you call those men dumb? People pick on Michael Moore's not so smart statements. I do not believe Moore is dumb either because of what he has achieved in the past. He could not get there by being stupid. Both use their intelligence to push their point of view on the public.
She made a incorrect statement about Canada sending troops to Vietnam. That is what the post is about.
If she went to a "good" school and has a history of political commentary what ever she says is right despite the facts?
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02-27-2005, 05:33 PM
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It's not the fact that I think she's stupid. I think she's far from stupid.
The thing that is funny (besides her statement being false) was that the fact the she couldn't even admit that she was wrong.
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02-27-2005, 05:38 PM
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She knows how to market herself. She is a good performer. She is good for entertainment, nothing more, nothing less.
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02-27-2005, 05:58 PM
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Who cares about her credentials? What does it matter if she is dumb or smart? I do not think people think she is unintelligent. They are just making fun of her mistake because of her more extreme political views. People may view some of her views as dumb just as people may argue John Kerry’s or Bill Clinton’s views are stupid. Would you call those men dumb? People pick on Michael Moore's not so smart statements. I do not believe Moore is dumb either because of what he has achieved in the past. He could not get there by being stupid. Both use their intelligence to push their point of view on the public.
She made a incorrect statement about Canada sending troops to Vietnam. That is what the post is about.
If she went to a "good" school and has a history of political commentary what ever she says is right despite the facts?
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She made one mistake. Big? No, not to me. Perhaps to Canadians, it was big.
I didn't say whatever she says is right. I am saying she is incredibly intelligent. Moore is not. However, Moore is not trying to be intelligent. Moore is a film maker and at that he is extremely talented. He doesn't even try to make himself out as "intelligent".
Extreme political views? Well as I've said before regarding anyone: If you find problems with what she writes, present proof otherwise. In this case you got her on one mistake which might embarass her, but doesn't compare with how you can go into Moore's film and take apart all the mistakes and lies.
At the end of the day, she's very intelligent. I think Al Franken is very intelligent as well (probably even more intelligent) and they both function in the same role in American politics.
-Rudey
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02-27-2005, 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
She made one mistake. Big? No, not to me. Perhaps to Canadians, it was big.
I didn't say whatever she says is right. I am saying she is incredibly intelligent. Moore is not. However, Moore is not trying to be intelligent. Moore is a film maker and at that he is extremely talented. He doesn't even try to make himself out as "intelligent".
Extreme political views? Well as I've said before regarding anyone: If you find problems with what she writes, present proof otherwise. In this case you got her on one mistake which might embarass her, but doesn't compare with how you can go into Moore's film and take apart all the mistakes and lies.
At the end of the day, she's very intelligent. I think Al Franken is very intelligent as well (probably even more intelligent) and they both function in the same role in American politics.
-Rudey
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Actually I think the point is that if she can make a mistake on something supposedly in her field of political commentary - what other mistakes or misrepresentations has she made?
Her points and arguements about Canada-US relations were pretty far off base or just wrong when she was on FoxNEWS discussing Bush's visit to Canada after the election... it was apparent that her points where based more in her political view and less in facts than the other speakers. The sad thing is how dismissive she acts towards those that disagree with her, or try to correct her, ironically becoming just as intractable, fanatical, and denying of reality - as the 'liberals' she demonizes.
If you go to the site and watch the entire 47min program - of which Ann makes up but a portion - you'll at least see the entire Coulter interview... and who stupid she comes off as.
Finally yes I do read and watch her work - remember we do have access to both the internet and TV up here in Canada... so her website with "articles" is available... as is FoxNews (channel 197 on Rogers).
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02-27-2005, 09:48 PM
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Re: Canucks
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Canada will never have a military man as great as John Wayne (SX - USC). I've seen him win several battles on his own.
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We prefer ours to be real... so in keeping with Black History month (well for the next two days):
William Hall
first Black recipent of the VC
Nov. 16th 1857
http://www.mysteriesofcanada.com/VC_Recipients/hall.htm
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02-28-2005, 09:58 AM
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I’m not trying to prove Ann right because honestly I don’t care. But I do understand how someone could be confused about Canada’s involvement in the Vietnam War considering all the facts. The whole topic is pretty interesting and I’ve actually spent some time researching this today.
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Simple if the Canadian Gov't didn't give the ok and they have legislation discussing people who leave the country to sign up then it's clear. They didn't support it.
Kinda like the US didn't fight in the Spanish Civil War because Americans went over there on their own free will. But the Canadians here are doing a great job of explaining that.
BTW, first Jeff "FUNBOY" Gannon, now Ann with "BS" facts. Gotta love it.
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02-28-2005, 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Rudey
She made one mistake. Big? No, not to me. Perhaps to Canadians, it was big.
I didn't say whatever she says is right. I am saying she is incredibly intelligent. Moore is not. However, Moore is not trying to be intelligent. Moore is a film maker and at that he is extremely talented. He doesn't even try to make himself out as "intelligent".
Extreme political views? Well as I've said before regarding anyone: If you find problems with what she writes, present proof otherwise. In this case you got her on one mistake which might embarass her, but doesn't compare with how you can go into Moore's film and take apart all the mistakes and lies.
At the end of the day, she's very intelligent. I think Al Franken is very intelligent as well (probably even more intelligent) and they both function in the same role in American politics.
-Rudey
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As "easy" as it might have been for somebody to dispute Micheal Moore, I could easily rip just about ANYTHING Ann says.
I don't doubt she's intelligent, which makes this flap even more DISGUSTING. She's too smart to do a commentary/write a article/do a interview w/o ALL the facts. An intelligent journalist doesn't make those mistakes unless their intentions are clearly bias or they're trying to hurt somebody. Coulter is nothing more than a politcal hack and her routine is getting old.
As for Moore, what I respect about him, he gives links and tells you where to look up his accusations. If he's wrong or misleading you have the oppourtunity to look into it for yourself.
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02-28-2005, 11:38 AM
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If she's dumb, I have no idea what it makes the rest of you
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Opinionated? Apathetic? Whatever.
The problem I see for Ms. Coulter is that she (and others like her on both sides of the fence) profess that everything they say and believe are true beyond argument. Then belittle those do aren't in agreement.
This kind of gaff seems dumber coming from someone who is allegedly all seeing and knowing.
That's what makes it big.
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02-28-2005, 01:15 PM
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Opinionated? Apathetic? Whatever.
The problem I see for Ms. Coulter is that she (and others like her on both sides of the fence) profess that everything they say and believe are true beyond argument. Then belittle those do aren't in agreement.
This kind of gaff seems dumber coming from someone who is allegedly all seeing and knowing.
That's what makes it big.
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Listen, intelligence has a definition. To call someone stupid, or use any derivation of that, is pretty straight cut.
-Rudey
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02-28-2005, 04:33 PM
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Ann Coulter is well-educated and definitely not stupid. From her website:
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Coulter graduated with honors from Cornell University School of Arts & Sciences, and received her J.D. from University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review.
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02-28-2005, 04:39 PM
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Ann Coulter is well-educated and definitely not stupid. From her website:
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Well the guy who was going to coach at Notre Dame did say on his resume that he had a degree from NYU....
But since she's well educated, her comments make her dishonest and spiteful and it turns my stomach that people call her a journalist. It's funny because if she's being defended as not stupid she's even worse off because a WELL-EDUCATED person doesn't pull a stunt like this.
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02-28-2005, 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Shortfuse
Well the guy who was going to coach at Notre Dame did say on his resume that he had a degree from NYU....
But since she's well educated, her comments make her dishonest and spiteful and it turns my stomach that people call her a journalist. It's funny because if she's being defended as not stupid she's even worse off because a WELL-EDUCATED person doesn't pull a stunt like this.
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If you follow Ann's writing so much, why don't you write a big book on where Ann is wrong and I'll take a look at it.
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