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Old 01-12-2005, 03:17 PM
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Too true... being a history and anthropolgy major the concept of race and/or racism comes up quite abit - particularly when you deal with evolutionary theories or African history. The first records all point to race being a discriptive term used to classify "others" not of your same community (be it clan, tribe, or state) - eventually you see it evolve as the cultures clashed into a more complex term used to both classify and measure both the people and their percieved worth, advancement, or "human-ness"... so for example the Eygptians considered themselves better than the Nubians because the Nubians were darker and less advanced; traits they associated with racial conitations - while conversely the Nubians saw themselves as better than the Egyptians because of their own darker skin, and because of their "moral" superiority; traits that the Nubians linked to race as well.
So, in this, one of if not the most intellectually advanced nation in the world, why do people still continue to speak in terms of race if it is such a "socially constructed" term? I personally believe what you have written here in addition to other things about the created notion of various races but I always wonder when this viewpoint will permeate throughout the society so people will stop the supremacy complexes.
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Old 01-12-2005, 03:45 PM
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I always wonder when this viewpoint will permeate throughout the society so people will stop the supremacy complexes.
I agree...ask any person of color who's been called "white-washed".....

Or, those certain people who LOVE to tell me that "Filipinos are the 'Black' Asians"....
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Old 01-12-2005, 03:50 PM
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What is interesting is that at one point Italians and Greeks were considered "black" in America.
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Old 01-12-2005, 03:58 PM
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Phasad how do you feel about his website since the thread is about that?

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Old 01-12-2005, 06:06 PM
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I think he clearly has some issues regarding his self image and race in America. I think it has a lot to do with perhaps how he was raised, the environment that he has been exposed to and his reaction to what he knows (or doesn't know) about the history of this country, the world and his being black. His anger could be masking a lot of pain and confusion or he could simply be an angry person who has chosen to, whether he realizes it or not, focus that anger on whom he presumes to be the cause or perpetrators of the suffering he feels.

I haven't been to and don't plan to visit his website. Just by judging him by the comments he has made on this board and people that I know who think similarly to him, these are some of the things I believe are going on with him.

Also, I don't really care what the thread was originally about, I commented on what I wanted to comment on and that is that. You should know that about me by now Rudey.
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:10 PM
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I always wonder when this viewpoint will permeate throughout the society so people will stop the supremacy complexes.
Amen!
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:11 PM
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Hmm. I can't think of anything else productive of my own to add to the thread, so I'll leave you with a quote.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:14 PM
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:40 PM
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Well it's all okay... because after all he's a "positive" racist... or so the thinking goes on in the other thread.
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:47 PM
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I think he clearly has some issues regarding his self image and race in America. I think it has a lot to do with perhaps how he was raised, the environment that he has been exposed to and his reaction to what he knows (or doesn't know) about the history of this country, the world and his being black. His anger could be masking a lot of pain and confusion or he could simply be an angry person who has chosen to, whether he realizes it or not, focus that anger on whom he presumes to be the cause or perpetrators of the suffering he feels.

I haven't been to and don't plan to visit his website. Just by judging him by the comments he has made on this board and people that I know who think similarly to him, these are some of the things I believe are going on with him.

Also, I don't really care what the thread was originally about, I commented on what I wanted to comment on and that is that. You should know that about me by now Rudey.
Which of these words would you choose to call him:

1) bigot
2) racist
3) anti-semite
4) anti-catholic
5) sexist who advocates awful things against women
6) all of the above

What bothers me isn't exactly his words - it's how others respond. To me people attacked hoosier (I thought justly, others might not) with those labels. I don't see as much against this guy.

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Old 01-12-2005, 07:16 PM
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Which of these words would you choose to call him:

1) bigot
2) racist
3) anti-semite
4) anti-catholic
5) sexist who advocates awful things against women
6) all of the above

What bothers me isn't exactly his words - it's how others respond. To me people attacked hoosier (I thought justly, others might not) with those labels. I don't see as much against this guy.

-Rudey
Though I will not attack anyone, I agree with the basic point you are making here.
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Old 01-12-2005, 10:20 PM
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Okey,

What I am not getting is why does this kind of stuff have to be posted here on the "chit chat" forum and not the "news and politics" forum...

Either folks don't care and choose not to know, but race is a purely socio-political construction because there is no basis of in any seriously research scientific study... Period...

So why are their huge health disparities among different ethnic groups compared to those of European descent?
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:10 PM
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Either folks don't care and choose not to know, but race is a purely socio-political construction because there is no basis of in any seriously research scientific study... Period...
Could someone please tell PHAShriner?

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So why are their huge health disparities among different ethnic groups compared to those of European descent?
I too would like to know. No, I do know but there are far too many people who refuse to see the truth. There is an underlying racism - even in those who are not "outwardly" racist - that exists. It affects members of the health care industries, including those of non-European descent. It is a rampant disease that we have failed to cure. Why? It isn't necessarily ignorance or apathy. It's complacency.
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Old 01-13-2005, 12:27 AM
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So the whole idea of racsim in ancient Egypt was due to Christianity? Interesting proof of time travel
You obviously didn't see the chicken.
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Old 01-13-2005, 12:42 AM
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You obviously didn't see the chicken.
Any Ham go go along with the eggs from this Roosters Hens He has been pecking with?

Oh, how about Waffles or Toast on the side?

OMG, lets not get into this whole hole to far!

An open door lets Rats in!
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