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08-12-2004, 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by steelepike
well i guess i will be open to this but she better be a damn good one or else she will be in more hot water than any president ever, thats a reason i don't think we should have one, her entire term would be under the worst microscope. she could be the best president ever and the media would destroy her.
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Good point. But it's just like having a black (male) president. He be under that same microscope.
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08-12-2004, 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by steelepike
well i guess i will be open to this but she better be a damn good one or else she will be in more hot water than any president ever, thats a reason i don't think we should have one, her entire term would be under the worst microscope. she could be the best president ever and the media would destroy her.
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That's why it's really important the first minority head of state has to be elected for who they are not what they are. Someone worthy of being head of state will withstand whatever criticism comes their way.
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08-13-2004, 12:49 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with a female President and Commander-in-Chief. Yes, the transition would be strange. The people who say there should never be a female President are no better than those who say African-Americans should not hold the top office.
While you guys sit here and whine about women doing this, open your eyes. There are all-female aircrews flying combat support missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last time I checked, the Taliban supported the 'females can't do anything' theory.
Just my two cents, have a good one.
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08-14-2004, 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by NickLc24
I don't see anything wrong with a female President and Commander-in-Chief. Yes, the transition would be strange. The people who say there should never be a female President are no better than those who say African-Americans should not hold the top office.
While you guys sit here and whine about women doing this, open your eyes. There are all-female aircrews flying combat support missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last time I checked, the Taliban supported the 'females can't do anything' theory.
Just my two cents, have a good one.
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Don't forget, women have been raising kids for a long time now. If a woman can handle the buisness affairs of a home, why not the country?
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08-14-2004, 09:00 AM
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We've already had a woman president-Hillary.
And to the poster who wrote he wouldn't vote for a woman yet b/c he hasn't seen any worth voting for....well the male candidate pool is pretty shallow as well. Unfortunately that's all that's running now.
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08-14-2004, 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by Glitterkitty
We've already had a woman president-Hillary. 
And to the poster who wrote he wouldn't vote for a woman yet b/c he hasn't seen any worth voting for....well the male candidate pool is pretty shallow as well. Unfortunately that's all that's running now.
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Hillary couldn't even manage her husband, what makes you think she would be a better candidate than Bush or Kerry?
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08-14-2004, 11:17 AM
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My only problem with Condoleeza Rice is that she is an academic. I am starting to wonder more and more whether a lot of our upper level staff posiitons should be given to people that primarily academics.
As far as a woman president, I would be fine with that unless she had adopted too many male characteristics. Women in business that act more like a man than a woman in their mannerisms make my skin crawl a little.
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08-14-2004, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Glitterkitty
We've already had a woman president-Hillary. 
And to the poster who wrote he wouldn't vote for a woman yet b/c he hasn't seen any worth voting for....well the male candidate pool is pretty shallow as well. Unfortunately that's all that's running now.
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Uh, no. Hillary Clinton, in no way, shape, or form, functioned as the President.
There was one, however, who came close to doing so. At the end of Woodrow Wilson's ( FKY from UVa and Johns Hopkins) presidency, he was in such poor health, that Edith Wilson is considered to have assumed a large part of the role of President.
Her official White House profile is here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/fi...es/ew28-2.html
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08-14-2004, 09:30 PM
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I wouldn't mind a female president, but not Hillary or Barbara Cubin *grrr*. I agree that there isn't one I'd vote for now, but I think a woman would be very beneficial to this country! Hmmm, maybe it's time we start changing our ways....
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08-15-2004, 08:59 PM
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Re: Edith Wilson
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Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Uh, no. Hillary Clinton, in no way, shape, or form, functioned as the President.
There was one, however, who came close to doing so. At the end of Woodrow Wilson's (FKY from UVa and Johns Hopkins) presidency, he was in such poor health, that Edith Wilson is considered to have assumed a large part of the role of President.
Her official White House profile is here:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/fi...es/ew28-2.html
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Ah yes, Edith...who convinced Woodrow to stay in office, even when he was FAR too sick to be a functional President. I'm not so big a fan of hers, but it's an interesting footnote in history.
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08-15-2004, 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by James
My only problem with Condoleeza Rice is that she is an academic. I am starting to wonder more and more whether a lot of our upper level staff posiitons should be given to people that primarily academics.
As far as a woman president, I would be fine with that unless she had adopted too many male characteristics. Women in business that act more like a man than a woman in their mannerisms make my skin crawl a little.
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An academic is an excellent choice for an advisor. I think she's getting a lot of great experience at the executive level that may some day make her a valuable candidate for elected office.
I wouldn't call her an "academic" after 4 years as the top foriegn policy advisor.
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08-15-2004, 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by Shortfuse
Don't forget, women have been raising kids for a long time now. If a woman can handle the buisness affairs of a home, why not the country?
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I don't disagree with you on your point that a woman could run the country. But your line of reasoning here is pretty screwy.
Can you tell me in what way running the United States is similar (realistically) to running a family?
If running a family is the mark of a good Commander in Chief, I want Danny Tanner from Full House.
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08-16-2004, 06:58 PM
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Can you tell me in what way running the United States is similar (realistically) to running a family?
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08-17-2004, 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by NickLc24
While you guys sit here and whine about women doing this, open your eyes. There are all-female aircrews flying combat support missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. Last time I checked, the Taliban supported the 'females can't do anything' theory.
Just my two cents, have a good one.
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08-17-2004, 10:20 AM
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With the exception of infantry and Special Forces troops in the Army, submarine duty/SEAL in the Navy and pararescue/combat controller in the Air Force, practically all jobs in the military are open to women. Mixed male-female missileers pull alert duty in the ICBM silos, females are now fighter jocks in the Air Force and the Navy.
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