crests

[Tom Earp]

Move to table indefiently!

Suggest each Member contact thier Hdq as I have done!

Just cause sam sausauge says so dont make it true!

Ta Da!

Yes GeekP I did check that link, thank you very much. I also sent it To My HDQ!

Now, why dont you check Your own Hdq to see if true.

My Rectum is to small for large heads. I will take care of LXA, You take care of yours. What is it again? What a shame, I know some very Nice Ladies from Yours.

I will become nice when you do!

You may now climb off of Me, Carnation, and anyothers that disagree with you! Oh, Do You want old posts Brought up???

Have a quality!

[AlphaPhiBubbles]

I know it's important to make sure each of our respective GLO's don't get into 'trouble' with misuse of a crest/logo....

but this is public information. Crests/coats of arms can be found on almost any GLO website; maybe we are making it easier for this person but if they are determined they will find these images eventually. If something harmful comes from whatever this person creates, I'm sure they will receive proper consequences.

In two words: JUST RELAX

GC can get so uptight sometimes it makes me constipated.

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles
I know it's important to make sure each of our respective GLO's don't get into 'trouble' with misuse of a crest/logo....

but this is public information. Crests/coats of arms can be found on almost any GLO website; maybe we are making it easier for this person but if they are determined they will find these images eventually. If something harmful comes from whatever this person creates, I'm sure they will receive proper consequences.

In two words: JUST RELAX

GC can get so uptight sometimes it makes me constipated.

Ditto. When I get like that some fiber usually does the trick.

[Tom Earp]

Nock it up,

oh, maybe it is knock it out!

Just do what it was suggested, post the link and ask questions. Jeeze, just ask your Hdq. Just that some person posts on GC does not malke Him Right.

Oh just love when GeekyPenguin suggested I check My Own Site, Wow, that is a little presumptious.

As soon as I hear From My CFO, I will Post the results. Why dont you all do the same!

Oh, Let us all know the results!

[Rudey]

Originally posted by adpiucf
I move this thread be deleted. Any symbols of a national GLO are trademarked, and anyone wanting them for the purpose of marketing or academic papers should go through the proper channels. If that person is a member of a GLO, their nationals can provide them with the materials they need for building web sites, putting together stationery, gifts, etc.

ETA: I say this from the perspective of someone who has worked in advertising and marketing in the past. And as was pointed out on a recent thread -I- started in the rush forum, even posting pics from other websites to GC can be considered in violation of webhosting, etc.

Again, if something violates the rules, it should be erased. This doesn't.

-Rudey

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Move to table indefiently!

Suggest each Member contact thier Hdq as I have done!

Just cause sam sausauge says so dont make it true!

Ta Da!

Yes GeekP I did check that link, thank you very much. I also sent it To My HDQ!

Now, why dont you check Your own Hdq to see if true.

My Rectum is to small for large heads. I will take care of LXA, You take care of yours. What is it again? What a shame, I know some very Nice Ladies from Yours.

I will become nice when you do!

You may now climb off of Me, Carnation, and anyothers that disagree with you! Oh, Do You want old posts Brought up???

Have a quality!

LALLALALALAA Melanie is an IO and has stated our policy quite clearly.

I'm sure the people at your EO will be delighted to deal with you and your TomFoolery, since your INTERNATIONAL HOMEPAGE links to this company.

[Sister Havana]

Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles
I know it's important to make sure each of our respective GLO's don't get into 'trouble' with misuse of a crest/logo....

but this is public information. Crests/coats of arms can be found on almost any GLO website; maybe we are making it easier for this person but if they are determined they will find these images eventually. If something harmful comes from whatever this person creates, I'm sure they will receive proper consequences.

Amen. The APO coat-of-arms I found was on the official APO website, in the public area, for anyone to see. Many chapter sites have this as well. It's not like we're also posting the meanings behind them or any other secret info.

Besides, I think it's cool to see what all the different crests/coats-of-arms look like.

[Janerz222]

I think I'm going to regret adding to this thread. . .

There is a difference between right-to-view and right-to-use. I notice a lot of comments on this thread that the crests are posted on the inter/national GLO websites in the public areas, so it's ok for anyone to use them. Not so.

It's my (albeit completely non-legally-trained) understanding that you do not have the right to copy graphics from any websites. (That's the beauty of links!) This would be especially true for trademarked items such as our crests, company logos, etc.

Just because anyone can view it on our inter/national website does not mean anyone can copy it and use it on their own site, paper, t-shirt, advertisement, yadda yadda yadda. . .

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Janerz222
I think I'm going to regret adding to this thread. . .

There is a difference between right-to-view and right-to-use. I notice a lot of comments on this thread that the crests are posted on the inter/national GLO websites in the public areas, so it's ok for anyone to use them. Not so.

It's my (albeit completely non-legally-trained) understanding that you do not have the right to copy graphics from any websites. (That's the beauty of links!) This would be especially true for trademarked items such as our crests, company logos, etc.

Just because anyone can view it on our inter/national website does not mean anyone can copy it and use it on their own site, paper, t-shirt, advertisement, yadda yadda yadda. . .

The law allows for many things involving your logo/seal/whatever that you wouldn't enjoy - many parodies for one.

-Rudey

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by Janerz222
It's my (albeit completely non-legally-trained) understanding that you do not have the right to copy graphics from any websites. (That's the beauty of links!) This would be especially true for trademarked items such as our crests, company logos, etc.

Just because anyone can view it on our inter/national website does not mean anyone can copy it and use it on their own site, paper, t-shirt, advertisement, yadda yadda yadda. . .

You have a correct understanding. And has been pointed out earlier, "fair use" (including parody) is a defense to a legal action claiming copyright infringement. Not so sure how equally it would apply to trademark infringement, which is what unauthorized use of coats of arms would fall under.

ETA: Upon thinking about further, I'm not sure whether unauthorized use of a coat of arms would be trademark/registered mark infringement or copyright infringement (or both). Probably depends on the actual protection a GLO has obtained for its coat of arms.

[OleMissGlitter]

well, Ariesrising them has them on her site....so does that mean we need to sue her...I don't think so. She has them on their for educational purposes...

[Rudey]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
You have a correct understanding. And has been pointed out earlier, "fair use" (including parody) is a defense to a legal action claiming copyright infringement. Not so sure how equally it would apply to trademark infringement, which is what unauthorized use of coats of arms would fall under.

So you're a lawyer?

-Rudey

[IvySpice]

I'm a lawyer, and anybody trying to sue GC for anything in this thread would be laughed out of court. This is fair use.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by Rudey
So you're a lawyer?

Yes.

Originally posted by IvySpice
I'm a lawyer, and anybody trying to sue GC for anything in this thread would be laughed out of court. This is fair use.

I don't think anyone was talking about suing GC. They were talking about the unknown use that the poster who started this thread planned to make of coats of arms. Since that poster only said "I need them for a piece I'm doing," there's no way to know whether the use would be an infringement or not. My post early on was simply to remind the original poster that there are copyright/trademark considerations and to be sure that he or she is aware of them.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
Yes.

I don't think anyone was talking about suing GC. They were talking about the unknown use that the poster who started this thread planned to make of coats of arms. Since that poster only said "I need them for a piece I'm doing," there's no way to know whether the use would be an infringement or not. My post early on was simply to remind the original poster that there are copyright/trademark considerations and to be sure that he or she is aware of them.

So what you are saying is you don't know if there would be an infringement and that the law does allow for the use of these images in certain situations.

I would hire IvySpice as my lawyer as long as she works at least 100 hours a week.

-Rudey