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07-28-2004, 01:38 PM
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Yes. Barak/Brak/he who can't stick to one spelling of his name has his own experiences but the difficult life of an immigrant was not something he experienced and I venture to say his experience with skin color was different than that of a full African-American, hence the reference to Tiger Woods. But I assume people will accept an identity if it suits them.
And he also spent some time in Indonesia as well as Hawaii.
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07-28-2004, 01:39 PM
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I'm confused, Tiger Woods doesn't consider himself African American.
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07-28-2004, 01:40 PM
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Eh...the immigrant and black thing is barely anything worthy of writing about.
The Harvard law review was the only thing worthy.
Is he smart? Yes.
Are smart guys the ones that dominate politics? Not really.
In terms of Chicago I find it funny that a guy who has made the securities industry what it is today ran against a powerful investment banker who left to teach at a south side black school and against a lawyer with teaching experience at UChicago.
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--His joke about his name is the most annoying and old joke now
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I agree that smart guys rarely get the vote. One thing I'm impressed, for the brief clips that I saw, is he is charismatic, smart and his method of communication is very down to earth. If he keep himself out of the vices of politics (drugs, sexs and corruption), he will go very far.
ETA: Isn't funny that politics and rock stars' lifestyle are pretty much the same. DIfference is that the some politicians are in a moral crusade, and the rock stars are enjoying their life.
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07-28-2004, 01:49 PM
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I'm confused, Tiger Woods doesn't consider himself African American.
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Because it doesn't suit him. In the future who knows?
Michael Jackson didn't either at one point, but now he's got the Nation of Islam shacking up in his place and goes around telling everyone he got screwed because of being black, while the black community goes "Damn, I'm not exactly sure I want anything to do with Jackson."
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07-28-2004, 01:50 PM
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As for the no-name AA's speaking at the Republican convention, at least these no-names have important real positions within their party (e.g. secretary of state) -- the Dems can't claim that 
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The Secretary of State is Black???
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07-28-2004, 01:51 PM
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Because it doesn't suit him. In the future who knows?
Michael Jackson didn't either at one point, but now he's got the Nation of Islam shacking up in his place and goes around telling everyone he got screwed because of being black, while the black community goes "Damn, I'm not exactly sure I want anything to do with Jackson."
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WOW! Must be nice to pick and choose when you want to be Black, lol. And you know Michael is a BAD example. That man has problems that go far beyond race,lol.
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07-28-2004, 01:53 PM
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I'm confused, Tiger Woods doesn't consider himself African American.
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Just out of curiosity, how does Tiger define himself? Multi-cultural?
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07-28-2004, 01:54 PM
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Cablasian?? Confused?? you pick one.
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07-28-2004, 01:54 PM
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He is a member of the State of Illinois State Senate, a public office.
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My apologies - I guess I was thinking National level... 
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07-28-2004, 02:00 PM
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WOW! Must be nice to pick and choose when you want to be Black, lol. And you know Michael is a BAD example. That man has problems that go far beyond race,lol.
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hah see you don't even want to touch the Jackson issue. I also knew kids who were Filipino and all of a sudden became hispanic when applying to college.
-Rudey
--Yeah...must be nice lol
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07-28-2004, 02:01 PM
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--Smart maybe, but really let's not all fall under the magic spell.
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It's a good thing we have you Rudey, or I think we just might. Since he gave the speech 200 times before, is only 1/2 black, was probably not treated like "regular" Black Americans and doesn't know how to spell his own first name I think people should take back every positive thing they said about him!
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07-28-2004, 02:05 PM
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It's a good thing we have you Rudey, or I think we just might. Since he gave the speech 200 times before, is only 1/2 black, was probably not treated like "regular" Black Americans and doesn't know how to spell his own first name I think people should take back every positive thing they said about him!
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I didn't say to "take back every positive thing they said about him"!
-Rudey
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07-28-2004, 02:18 PM
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The Secretary of State is Black???
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Are you implying that he's not black or are you just being facetious?
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07-28-2004, 02:30 PM
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30% joke, 70% serious.
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07-28-2004, 02:30 PM
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I didn't say to "take back every positive thing they said about him"!
-Rudey
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No, I said they should take everything back. Never said you did.
Tell me, what makes you think people have "fallen under the magic spell"?
Can you also tell me what led you tp say:
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I venture to say his experience with skin color was different than that of a full African-American,
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What exactly is the experience with skin color that a full African American would have? What is a "full" African American?
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