Who Owns Your Badge? - Page 3

wptw · #31 07-02-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by JocelynC
Sigma HQ holds the legal title to all our badges.

See, I hear these kind of anecdotal statements all the time, but what does that actually mean? What's that statement based on?

wptw

KSUViolet06 · #32 07-02-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by wptw
See, I hear these kind of anecdotal statements all the time, but what does that actually mean? What's that statement based on?

wptw

I believe it means it's issued to you, but in the event that you die/ or terminate your membership, you have to give it back.

wptw · #33 07-02-2004, 02:30 PM

::smacks forehead::

wptw

ISUKappa · #34 07-02-2004, 02:47 PM

Our fraternity had their lawyer look through our Constitution, ByLaws, Standing Rules and Policies for any legal claim we could have on our badges. And they basically said, there is none. Like wptw said, possession is 9/10s of the law, a court is going to favor the person in possession of the badge, whether it's the person it was originally issued to or not.

So the best way to combat this is to educate your members. Have them put a clause in their will; tell their family what they want done; have it written where they keep their badge; teach them on the proper ways to ensure their badge doesn't end up where it doesn't belong.

wptw · #35 07-02-2004, 02:54 PM

I hold the legal title to your curling iron.
What does that mean?
It means I own it.
On what do you base that claim?
It’s based on the fact that I own it.
Who says you own it?
I own everyone’s curling iron.
How can that possibly be?
It’s my policy.
But I bought this curling iron.
Right and I own it. You’re just leasing it from me.
But I paid for it. I have a receipt. I never signed a lease.
True, but I still own it.
Why do you keep saying that?
Because I hold the title to it.
Curling irons aren’t automobiles – they don’t have certificates of title.
I am holding the title right now.
OK. What does it look like?
It is a small blue book and it says ”policy manual”.
That’s not a title. That’s just a book.
No, it’s a title. It says so inside.
Who wrote it?
I did.
So how does that affect me?
In a very substantial way because if you die, somebody has to mail the curling iron back to me.
But you can’t just make stuff like that up.
Why?
Because you can’t just unilaterally state that you own all of a certain thing.
Why?
Because if you could, then what’s to stop you from saying you own Australia?
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I own Australia.
What?
Yes, I have just amended my policy manual. I hold the title to Australia. When everyone there dies, they have to send it back to me.
[suffers brain aneurysm and drops dead] Grrk!
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Are you sending me back my curling iron now?
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Hellooooo?

OleMissGlitter · #36 07-02-2004, 02:55 PM

"In Alpha Omicron Pi, our badge is our mutual piece of jewelry. As initiated members it represents a very special promise demanding our every respect."---from AOII Website

I believe we are suppose to turn our badge to headquarters when we die. I know our chapter sends our suspended members badges to headquarters. I'm glad my great-grandmother didn't want to be buried with her badge! It's from 1924, 80 years old this year, and it's the all pearl badge. I love my AOII Badge! I'm all about passing it down from generation to generation!

imsohappythatiama · #37 07-02-2004, 02:59 PM

It doesn't matter anyway...since wptw doesn't know my Curling Iron Ritual, my curling iron doesn't hold the same importance to him as it does to me, an initated member of the Curling Iron Society. My Curling Iron is only special because of the ritual associated with it, which is secret to only those members of the Society.

(Hell, it's a ritual I practice everyday, and I am willing to bet that wptw wouldn't know...and probably doesn't want to know...how to use a curling iron effectively!)

snicker, snicker

ISUKappa · #38 07-02-2004, 03:01 PM

OleMiss, I'm not picking on you, just using you as an example, I promise!

Quote:

Originally posted by OleMissGlitter
"... I believe we are suppose to turn our badge to headquarters when we die. I know our chapter sends our suspended members badges to headquarters. I'm glad my great-grandmother didn't want to be buried with her badge! It's from 1924, 80 years old this year, and it's the all pearl badge. I love my AOII Badge! I'm all about passing it down from generation to generation!

(my emphasis on supposed)

Yes, WE as initiated members all know what we're supposed to do with our badges upon our passing, but, see the problem is, when we're dead, we can't exactly talk, so our family has no idea what to do with our posessions unless we tell them beforehand. That's why so many fraternal groups advocate putting a clause or section in your will, filling out a badge disposition form and keeping it with either our legal documents or our jewelry or making a permanent record of what we want done. So they don't end up for sale in a flea market or an antique store or an estate sale or eBay.

Plus, when we're dead it's kind of hard for us to send stuff back to HQ. You know, lack of mobility and life and all that...

wptw · #39 07-02-2004, 03:03 PM

I did use a curling iron once. It was the 80s and I was trying to get my hair to do that feather thing. Disaster. Scalded my forehead. Opted instead for the other popular 80s 'do, the mullet.

wptw

ISUKappa · #40 07-02-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by wptw
I did use a curling iron once. It was the 80s and I was trying to get my hair to do that feather thing. Disaster. Scalded my forehead. Opted instead for the other popular 80s 'do, the mullet.

wptw

A HA! So you hold a grudge against curling irons.

Finally, the truth comes out.

Pink_Bug · #41 07-02-2004, 03:37 PM

Well I for one love my curling iron and couldn't imagine life without it! My curling iron has helped my hair look and feel great for a long, long time........
Therefore I also respect the "owner" of my curling iron a great deal and since my curling iron has been so kind to me I will gladly respect the wishes of its owner!

imsohappythatiama · #42 07-02-2004, 03:48 PM

Just so long as I can get a refund or replacement iron from you if/when my curling iron breaks, so that I can avoid having to haul myself downtown to the Sally Beauty Supply to buy another one.

And just for the record, how long does the warranty last on my curling iron, according to the little blue book you are holding???

I am amending my will as we speak, to make sure my curling irons (I own two, I am a legacy) will be returned swiftly to wptw upon my death.

Hopefully, when I call my attorney to tell him of this amendment, he won't think I have been smoking crack.

ISUKappa · #43 07-02-2004, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by imsohappythatiama
Just so long as I can get a refund or replacement iron from you if/when my curling iron breaks, so that I can avoid having to haul myself downtown to the Sally Beauty Supply to buy another one.

And just for the record, how long does the warranty last on my curling iron, according to the little blue book you are holding???

I am amending my will as we speak, to make sure my curling irons (I own two, I am a legacy) will be returned swiftly to wptw upon my death.

Hopefully, when I call my attorney to tell him of this amendment, he won't think I have been smoking crack.

ROFL!

Just be sure to provide proper member identification when ordering your new or upgraded (because we all want the platinum one with the diamond-studded handle) curling iron.

wptw · #44 07-02-2004, 03:56 PM

I own your crack pipe. Please complete the attached crack pipe disposition form and file it with your important documents.

wptw

GeekyPenguin · #45 07-02-2004, 04:00 PM

wptw, you can have my curling iron, but you'll have to take my straightening iron out of my cold dead hands.