Target-4 MILLION dead Americans

[Rudey]

YOU see nothing. YOU are Canadian.

-Rudey

Originally posted by RACooper
I am an absoulute idiot and talk about America as if I were an American.

Finally lets try to leave soap-box politics out of this... no Liberal/Right-Wing/Republican/Democrat name calling.... we see enough of that on the daily news.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by ktsnake
The Supreme Court has been liberal in its interpretation of the constitution when it comes to public safety. For example, it upheld a ruling that said that roadblocks to test for drunk drivers were legal search due to public safety concerns.

If it comes to potentially saving 4 million lives (and you have the fringe benefit of making life miserable for a murderer like one of these folks), I say do it.

It's a baby Antonin!

ktsnake, do some more research on that public safety clause.

[RACooper]

Originally posted by Rudey
YOU see nothing. YOU are Canadian.

-Rudey

Oooooh... creative editing using the quote function.... you get a gold star.

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by Roseblum15
Does anyone wonder when stuff like this comes up as to why we have so many soldiers over in Iraq? Are there enough soldiers left to protect the United States?

You have absolutely no idea how the military operates, do you? We only have about 2 1/2 divisions in Iraq. That isn't "so many" by historical standards. Also, how would you deploy these soldiers to legally fight terrorists on domestic soil?

[Peaches-n-Cream]

New York City has been on a higher level of alert than the rest of the country since 9/11/01. I see police and military vehicles at every bridge and tunnel crossing. When the treat level was raised before the first anniversary of 9/11, there were even more police everywhere. When the threat was lowered, the number of police visible decreased somewhat. Sometimes it feels like a police state, but I have grown accustomed to it.

I think that this latest threat is real. We have political conventions in two of the biggest cities in the US. There will be millions of people in those cities during the conventions. It frightens me to think of the possibilities.

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
\I think that this latest threat is real. We have political conventions in two of the biggest cities in the US. There will be millions of people in those cities during the conventions. It frightens me to think of the possibilities.

i'm definitely nervous about this. i've read a few times that boston is not a target, especially the convention, and that they are taking every precaution necessary to prevent attacks. yet, the next article talks about how there are concerns that there are not enough police and security personnel for when the convention is in town. i am thinking of going on vacation that week!

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by mu_agd
i'm definitely nervous about this. i've read a few times that boston is not a target, especially the convention, and that they are taking every precaution necessary to prevent attacks. yet, the next article talks about how there are concerns that there are not enough police and security personnel for when the convention is in town. i am thinking of going on vacation that week!

Me too. I remember how crazy NYC was when the DNC was here in 1992, and that was without a terrorist threat. A dozen years later the world is so different, and the threat is out there. I am really thinking about getting out of town.

[AlphaSigOU]

Originally posted by RACooper
Now Amendment XI [January 8th, 1798] is a little confusing on the subject for me... so perhaps someone else can shed light on it.

The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

This limits the jurisdiction of the Federal judicial system to exclude any suit initiated by a person against a state government. The Supreme Court has interpreted several later amendments, notably the Fourteenth, as restricting the scope of the Eleventh. See Congressional power of enforcement.

(Source: http://www.fact-index.com/e/el/eleve...stitution.html)

[AlphaSigOU]

I think everyone needs to at least read this article before trying to Monday-morning-quarterback the United States' military position in Iraq and the war on terrorism:

How We Lost The High-Tech War of 2007

And this article, written by an Army Specialist wounded in the Iraq insurgency:

The Real Story Behind the April 9th Insurgency in Iraq

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by mu_agd
i'm definitely nervous about this. i've read a few times that boston is not a target, especially the convention, and that they are taking every precaution necessary to prevent attacks. yet, the next article talks about how there are concerns that there are not enough police and security personnel for when the convention is in town. i am thinking of going on vacation that week!

Working at a major hospital, people are definitely talking about this around here and how to prepare leading up to the event.

Although, I've always just assumed that living in a big city would mean I would be exposed to possibilities like this.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
It's a baby Antonin!

ktsnake, do some more research on that public safety clause.

I did, I was wrong

They voted 6-3 ruling roadblocks unconstitutional.

Case is City of Indianapolis v. Edmond No. 99-1030 if anyone's interested.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Rudey
Why don't you tell us what those guidelines in the constitution say?

Because I won't be involved. I just answered a question. If the Constitution said "burn them at the stake," then someone should light the match. My point simply is that the Constitution should be our guideline.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Because I won't be involved. I just answered a question. If the Constitution said "burn them at the stake," then someone should light the match. My point simply is that the Constitution should be our guideline.

The constitution is elastic. That's what I was trying to get at.

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Rudey
The constitution is elastic. That's what I was trying to get at.

Yeah, I agree. That's why it's a guideline, not a set of instructions. As long as we stay within its spirit, I'm OK.

[mu_agd]

Originally posted by KSigkid
Working at a major hospital, people are definitely talking about this around here and how to prepare leading up to the event.

Although, I've always just assumed that living in a big city would mean I would be exposed to possibilities like this.

i also would like to go on vacation that week b/c everything is going to be so packed and the t is going to be all messed up. so i think a nice week at my parents house on the cape may be necessary...