Pledged - Page 3

lyrica9 · #31 07-17-2004, 04:17 AM

shan- i was thinking about that as i read the book last night, and so far i think its texas tech. i dont know much about their greek community, granted, but i do know they have houses and a larger number of organizations.

im just assuming she's using a texas school, because there are a lot here that are not as "southern" about sororities as most other southern states, and because a lot of the sources when she does site an actual NPC sorority she sites schools or women in texas.

but now that i think on it more, i think it may also be UT... because greek life is decently big, but not the end all of everything there, and because of its size, etc.

i just think its in texas

ETA to say that i dont think the 18 sororities count is true in her book, that its one of the changed elements, because if it were true it'd be pretty easy to find all the schools with 18 sororities and figure it out. i mean, there aren't THAT many universities with 18 npcs in the country...

texas*princess · #32 07-17-2004, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by lyrica9
shan- i was thinking about that as i read the book last night, and so far i think its texas tech. i dont know much about their greek community, granted, but i do know they have houses and a larger number of organizations.

Maybe someone from Tech can clarify this for me, but for some reason I remember talking to one of our ADPi sisters from Tech and she mentioned that @ Tech they have "lodges" and not "houses"

I personally think the whole book was fabricated, but hey, that's just me

ASUADPi · #33 07-17-2004, 06:53 PM

Shan and I were just talking about this book earlier today. TP I have to agree with you, I haven't started the book, but with all the I've heard most of it sounds like complete BS. Plus, I think it is RETARDED that she "blames" sorority life for girls having an eating disorder, or being promiscuois (sp), or drinking, doing drugs, etc.. Those things are just part of college in general. I will have more opinions once I read the book.

OMG I just started reading the book, I'm on page 2 and I'm already offended. What the hell? Okay, now according to this chick I was from the "popular group" in high school and that I am "cooler, prettier and wealthier". Is this woman completely and utterly smoking crack? Seriously. I was in NO WAY popular in high school. I was semi-popular, had lots of friends but I wasn't the cheerleader (although I wanted to be) and they were the "popular" ones. I come from a middle class family. I didn't and don't have things handed to me on a silver platter. I got a job as soon as I turn sixteen. And as for my looks, I don't think I'm all that pretty (although friends would disagree), I just have never thought of myself as pretty.

So right off the bat this woman is going to be dissing us because this is her "perception" of sororities.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when you are doing an "expose" shouldn't you, oh let me think, be a bit unbiased. And most importantly not use your biases on the actual "reporting of the facts". Already I can tell that she probably used her biases of us as her way of "reporting the facts".

I still can't believe I'm already disgusted and I'm only on the second page.

lyrica9 · #34 07-18-2004, 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by texas*princess
Maybe someone from Tech can clarify this for me, but for some reason I remember talking to one of our ADPi sisters from Tech and she mentioned that @ Tech they have "lodges" and not "houses"

I personally think the whole book was fabricated, but hey, that's just me

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they have houses, when we were having our first recruitment workshop kim was telling me about it. plus on the techaphi site that i love so much they have a map of the greek subdivision.
but after thinking about it more today i decided i didnt think it was tech.
now ive concentrated more on trying to figure out who the groups are supposed to be.... im such a dork

ADPiShannan · #35 07-18-2004, 12:28 PM

dont worry I am doing the same. I just really want to know who she is talking about and where it takes place, if it even takes place.

skerbow · #36 07-19-2004, 06:39 PM

Just to clarify, Tech has what are called "lodges." The girls tend to common name them "houses," But they are in fact lodges. None of the girls live in them. It is against the law in Lubbock to have more than 5 women living in the same house. It is an old Brothel Law. Just wanted to add my $0.02.

adpiucf · #37 07-27-2004, 11:02 AM

While there is a lot of good happening in the sorority system, there are clearly very serious challenges that are taking over.

Pledged does a decent (if tongue-in-cheek) job in addressing these. I encourage all Panhellenic women to read this book, and discuss it with their chapters as a means to develop ways to deal with the continuing issues of eating disorders, date rape, substance abuse, bullying and other destructive behaviors. NPC and ADPi have wonderful workshops that outline these abuses and how to prevent them, and it is vital for collegiate women to support these programs and make a dent in such serious obstacles to our individual and group development.

Whether or not these things happen at your chapter, whether you are an alumna or a collegian, whether you were an active member for 4 years or 4 months, these problems do exist in the sorority system. Regardless of her research methods, Alexandra Robbins has painted a picture of Greek Life on a southern campus in the 2000's. Let's do something constructive about those problems and help ourselves.

ASUADPi · #38 07-27-2004, 11:18 AM

Abbey you are totally right.

No matter how 'disgusted' I am with the book, I do think it is important for me to read, just as I think it is important for collegians to read. For everyone to read.

You are right, these "problems" do happen and they do need to be addressed. I do think the book might "exaggerate" the 'problems' (but until I finish reading it I actually can't say for sure).

sherra, Tempe has the same 'brothel' law that you are talking about. Just thought it was interesting to why we can't have houses in some cities at some schools.

#39 08-01-2004, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by texas*princess
Maybe someone from Tech can clarify this for me, but for some reason I remember talking to one of our ADPi sisters from Tech and she mentioned that @ Tech they have "lodges" and not "houses"

I personally think the whole book was fabricated, but hey, that's just me

i personally have not read the book, but we did refer to our houses as "lodges". there are currently 10 sororities on campus. while i was there, we had 11 sororities, but Gamma Phi Beta I believe closed their chapter.

nauadpi · #40 08-02-2004, 12:24 AM

Well I am almost done with the book, so I thought I would post... I am borrowing my diamond sister's copy... Anyways... My main thought on the book is that all she tries to do is point out the negative... My biggest complaint is that she states in one sentence that not all sororities haze... then goes on for a chapter about hazing... She never again relates back that not all chapters do this... In reality a lot of the other stuff happens in college... Also I have to agree that women living together can become a messy situation, but I believe the good greatly outways the bad in that... She tries to make it sound like it is crazy that these women stick with the sororities with all the problems that occur, but doesn't take the time to ask them what the good points of it all are... I have seen situations of back stabing and what not in res halls... Stuff happens, but she leaves out the rest of the time...

Also I was a bit annoyed by the assumptions made the sorority women are these popular beauty queens... She refers that there are the "less" popular ones on campus but never goes into them... I personally found that very one sided and limiting... I know I would never fit into the popular group crowd, but yes I am an alpha delta pi and will be for the rest of my life...