Gracious Living in America's Heartland

[James]

Ahhhh must have been women (maybe from this site) that did the inspecting and found them unworthy of housing even in the future

Originally posted by HederaNaturale
If they're being kicked out because the buidling isn't up to code, it doesn't need to be a structural issue. It's not that they're being put out so that the school will have time to fix it, they're being kicked out as punishment for letting the building lapse into a condemned state. It's like when social services come into a house a find a filthy baby... they're not going to just leave the baby there and come back in an hour after you give the kid a bath; to protect the child and punish you for letting your kid get that filthy is to take the kid away. If they damaged university property due to neglect, the school definitely has a leg to stand on

[valkyrie]

Actually, I've worked for a social service agency and I've seen houses worse than this where children were not removed.

Anyway, I was looking at the web site for this chapter earlier today, and there was an email address for the House Father -- where was he when the mess was growing? I could be wrong, but I'd guess that for most college aged men, cleaning the house is not a top priority. If the alumni put money into the house, as I'm assuming they have, wouldn't they check in from time to time to see how things are going with the house? Wouldn't it be more constructive for the alumni to work with the collegiates to clean up the house rather than kicking them out or deactivating them? I don't see how it's such a big deal, really.

As far as I know, the houses at Iowa are not owned by the University nor are they on University property. It looks like the issue here is with the city.

[Tom Earp]

Oh, golly gee whiz, dont kick them off for living like slobs and were fore warned! Excuses are a penny a pound!

Structural is not the only reason to shut down a House as well as a Resturant you may have been eating in! Da!

Try taking your parents into Your Domain as a Brother/Sister and seeing this kind of S**T! Or your Mother Needs to use The Resroom and NO DAMN TOILET PAPER!

What the hell would you feel like, embarassed for the Arses that live there and have no respect for themselves, their dates, new rushees, or parents!

Either pay more to live there and hire cleaning out or go back to Pledges in searvitude cleaning common areas!

Did you live in squalor from where you came from? Were you taught better than that!?

Hell, I went to college and My Room was neat and clean in the Dorm and when I moved into our first house.

OMG, they are just kids, well, boot their asses off campus if need be! Da, Or lie down with pigs! How in the hell do they continue to stay there and grow?

If it is a conspericy to boot Betas off, then they should fight it! Dont look like it is happening does it?

[ISUKappa]

It also looks like one of the main issues of them being kicked off is violations of alcohol policies--a keg (clearly shown in one of the pictures) and alcohol in public areas of the house are against IFC regulations and possibly Beta Theta Pi regulations.

The U of I IFC and Panhel is really trying to crack down on alcohol violations within the Greek Community as they have been a consistent problem within some chapters.

And it also appears there were two inspections--note pictures dated March 3 and April 22. Most likely, there was one inspection by the Fire Marshal, they noted the problems and gave the men 6 weeks to clean up. At the second inspection, no noticable improvements were made so the decision to close was made. Chapter houses are not University owned but they are required to follow city housing codes. Because of the type of dwelling they are (multiple-story, multiple-person) the codes may be more strict.

[exlurker]

Originally posted by ISUKappa
It also looks like one of the main issues of them being kicked off is violations of alcohol policies--a keg (clearly shown in one of the pictures) and alcohol in public areas of the house are against IFC regulations and possibly Beta Theta Pi regulations.

The U of I IFC and Panhel is really trying to crack down on alcohol violations within the Greek Community as they have been a consistent problem within some chapters.

And it also appears there were two inspections--note pictures dated March 3 and April 22. Most likely, there was one inspection by the Fire Marshal, they noted the problems and gave the men 6 weeks to clean up. At the second inspection, no noticable improvements were made so the decision to close was made. Chapter houses are not University owned but they are required to follow city housing codes. Because of the type of dwelling they are (multiple-story, multiple-person) the codes may be more strict.

ISUKappa -- good points; note that March 3 was a Wednesday and April 22 was a Thursday, so it's unlikely that we're just looking at some Monday-morning litter left over from a weekend. In a way I do feel sorry for the guys who spoke with reporters. They may have gotten in over their heads -- when it gets to the point where you're saying you've never seen rats or mice in the house, no matter what the city inspectors say about rodent tooth marks -- well, you've got a PR problem. Just can't help wishing the men in the chapter had called the 800 number on Beta HQ's web site and asked for some assistance with communications.

[exlurker]

According to NBC affiliate KWWL in Iowa, the Beta Theta Pi chapter at the U. of Iowa has lost its charter. Reportedly Beta national says there will be a recolonization, but no date has been set.

Sad to see a chapter lose its charter.

The TV station's report:

http://www.kwwl.com/Global/story.asp?S=1842697