What makes Kerry so great?

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by honeychile
And I heard properly, Kerry received an "F" from the Pope - the head of the religion he purports to be a member of.

I no doubt would recieve an F from the Pope too, or maybe even an incomplete. Kerry is just like the rest of the Catholics in America, and the Pope can't do crap about it because we're the financial backbone of the Church.

And unless he was speaking with Papal Infallibility, it was just a statement from John Paul the Polish dude, not John Paul, leader of the Church.

I'm voting for Kerry because I don't believe my religion needs to be imposed on anybody else, be it in their body, their classroom, or their marriage.

As for the First Lady issue, I'd rather have an "unAmerican" first lady then one who killed somebody (OOPS DID I SAY THAT?) and one who claims she's just "a middle-class girl from SMU." Last I heard SMU on it's own was expensive, not to mention her Theta dues.

[cashmoney]

IF i hear anything else about John Kerry i'm gonna puke.
Yeah lets give free health care to all the people that sit on their asses and make the people that bust their asses pay for it. Thats basically one of the things he wants to do. F*cking Democrats!!!

I'm sorry but it's survival of the fittest and I have no compassion for lazy people.

If I were lazy and didn't wanna work I would vote for Kerry too.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin

As for the First Lady issue, I'd rather have an "unAmerican" first lady then one who killed somebody (OOPS DID I SAY THAT?) and one who claims she's just "a middle-class girl from SMU." Last I heard SMU on it's own was expensive, not to mention her Theta dues.

Who killed someody? I have no idea what you are talking about.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Who killed someody? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Laura Bush went to SMU and was a Theta. An ex of mine, her older sister went to SMU and was a Theta as well....thats how I know. And yes, SMU is very expensive....in my view its the best buisness school in the nation. I have a couple of friends who graduated from there.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Who killed someody? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Laura Bush did in a car accident when she was a senior in high school, I believe. I read about it in Reader's Digest, which was surprising since that's usually a conservative rag.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
You're right!! those are the exact reasons why I think he's a creep and hope he loses!!!

I think the word 'creep' is the problem in this statement. I disagree with President Bush on many issues, but I don't think that it is appropriate for people to call him derogatory names. It's just about respect and civility for me.


Regarding drilling for oil in the Arctic refuge: I think that we should be looking for ways to reduce our dependency on foreign oil, as well as look for alternative sources of energy. I think energy conservation is very important, but really hasn't been a part of the discussion.

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Laura Bush did in a car accident when she was a senior in high school, I believe. I read about it in Reader's Digest, which was surprising since that's usually a conservative rag.

Oh a car accident. That's sad. Thanks.

[DeltAlum]

An automobile accident involving the Mrs. Bush when she was in high school, as tragic as it may be, has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the Presidential Campaign.

As for health care, and I'll add Social Security, when you a lot closer to it, it becomes a much bigger issue. If for no other reason, when you have paid into the system for 40 years, and are told blandly that it's going to run out of money before you are eligible, the becomes a VERY big issue. At least to me. Of course Members of Congress and some other Federal employees don't have to worry about it.

And, Cash, go ahead and puke. A lot of folks would say the same thing about the President.

Politics would be a whole lot easier to deal with if looked at intellectually as opposed to emotionally.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
An automobile accident involving the Mrs. Bush when she was in high school, as tragic as it may be, has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to the Presidential Campaign.

I think it has about as much relevance as Mrs. Kerry's birthplace, which is why I brought it up.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by DeltAlum

As for health care, and I'll add Social Security, when you a lot closer to it, it becomes a much bigger issue. If for no other reason, when you have paid into the system for 40 years, and are told blandly that it's going to run out of money before you are eligible, the becomes a VERY big issue. At least to me. Of course Members of Congress and some other Federal employees don't have to worry about it.

DA-

Most people with common sense know not to rely on the government or social security. The baby boomer parents sent social security down the shitter. Ever heard of financial planning? I took the class a while back and since then I've been putting money into stocks, bonds and mutual funds. A great aunt of mine died when I was 19 and left me some money. It was right after I had taken classes such as financial planning...and I must say, that might have been one of the smartest moves I've made yet. Even though I'm still young, its refreshing to know the odds of me being broke on my ass when I'm old are dead against it. And to know I wont have to rely on social security, if it's even still around in some shape or form, is just as sweet.

Ok, Ok, I'll admit "Creep" was a bad choice of words, but sheesh, give me a break.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
Ok, Ok, I'll admit "Creep" was a bad choice of words, but sheesh, give me a break.

You should have learned in your PoliSci classes what one bad choice of words can do.

Ok, seriously, i'm sick of this damn ANWAR Red Herring that's being thrown around.

Developing ANWAR as an oil source isn't the destructive and horrible thing you people make it out to be. How many of y'all that are so opposed to the development actually have any emotional or physical attachment to the area? How many of y'all plan to visit it? How many of y'all that are opposed to it have spent more than 7 days continuously in a National Park or Forest in the past 5 years? Are you seeing what i'm getting at?

Only 1.5 million acres of the 17.5 million acres in ANWAR is being considered for development. That's only 8% of the land. When you take into account the growth of jobs, the economic impact and the reduction of our foriegn dependence on oil that this will have, it's a freakin no-brainer.

Oh, it's going to affect the animals? According the the Department of the Interior the population of the Central Arctic Caribou Herd at Prudhoe Bay(a similar site already under development) has INCREASED during the last 20 years of production from 3,000 to over 20,000. Seeing as how only 8% of ANWAR will be drilled, i don't see that being an issue on the remaining 17.5 mill acres.
http://www.absc.usgs.gov/1002/section4part1.htm

In closing, i was a Parks and Rec major at A&M. That's what my degree is in. If you want to know what i think our greatest enviornmental issue is, it's the commercializing of our National Parks. In my opinion, if you have such a hard-on to see the Grand Canyon, you should be expected to put forth the effort to hike, bike, or horseback in. All the man-made structures in these parks should be eliminated and they should be allowed to return to their primitive states. ANWAR drilling could benefit the entire country. Building roads, concession stands, restrooms, cement paths through Yosemite so that the weekend tourist can drive through and not have to get out of his car defeats the purpose.

So bash Bush, but don't give me this damn "drilling is evil" nonsense.

Kitso
KS 361

[Peaches-n-Cream]

Kitso, I didn't read where anyone said that 'drilling is evil' in this thread. I just think that there are other ways for Americans to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. I think that a combination of alternative sources of fuel and energy conservation are viable options.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by cashmoney
Most people with common sense know not to rely on the government or social security.

Financial planning is great until the market and other measures go into the toilet.

Three years ago I was a millionaire (on paper) and would have been a lot more than that at retirement. Now, I'm about half that, and a lot closer to retirement.

My inlaws made a pretty fair amount of money when they sold their farm, used a very good professional financial planner, and did well living off of the interest from investments and other things.

When the "recession" hit, they had to start digging into the principle.

And, just out of frustration, I really am steamed that I've been paying into a system for 40 years, from which the government said I would get certain benefits -- and then potentially get nothing.