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Old 03-19-2004, 01:38 PM
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Career politicians are the rule, not the exception. Try again! Career politicians are the ones who do anything to get re-elected. At least if your rich, your next job doesn't depend on if the public likes you, and you can base decisions in facts insetad of public opinion. Some say that's why people voted for Arnold.
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Old 03-19-2004, 03:28 PM
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Clash of Titans
By DAVID BROOKS

Most Democrats have trouble affording one home, so when they search for a leader who shares their values, of course they nominate a guy who is running for his sixth. Of course they nominate a guy whose 42-foot powerboat, the Scaramouche, sells for upward of $700,000. Of course they choose a guy famous for his Christophe haircuts and his Turnbull & Asser shirts. Of course they choose a couple who paid to have an unsightly fire hydrant moved from the front of their Boston house, and who sought to divert huge amounts of river water to supply their sprawling Idaho lawn.
I liked this piece until I read this. That's a load of crap, and apparently when poor Mr. Brooks was at Chicago he never learned about the new class.

I have to go pick cotton now because I guess I'm poor or something. Also, Colonist, those Lyndon LaRouche people attacked us at the Cap South Metro stop - they called my mommy a capitalist pig.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:19 PM
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Try coming out of the Foggy Bottom metro or walking through GW's campus down H street they are always here. To my knowledge there have been at least three fights that broke out between students and the LaRouche cult members.
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Old 03-19-2004, 08:51 PM
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Probably not the place to put it, but I heard this little factoid: the Heinz Company has 57 factories outside the United States.
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Old 03-19-2004, 09:04 PM
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Probably not the place to put it, but I heard this little factoid: the Heinz Company has 57 factories outside the United States.
How many do they have inside the country?

I always like to hear both sides of a story.

Oh, and last I heard, Kerry's wife's family wasn't running for office.
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Old 03-19-2004, 09:14 PM
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How many do they have inside the country?

I always like to hear both sides of a story.

Oh, and last I heard, Kerry's wife's family wasn't running for office.
Not arguing - I just thought the 57 was funny!

Guess I should have put a winkie or something...
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Yeah, actually the 57 didn't hit me until I had posted. We always bought that other kind anyway. Whatever it was.
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Old 03-20-2004, 09:20 AM
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I heard the "57" comment too!

Scary Kerry-can't stand the man.

DA, I have a hard time understanding your defense of him. I'm not saying this in comparison to Bush, because he has his share of negatives too.
I can list the things I see wrong with Bush, but I wonder if you can see anything troubling about Kerry.

No one gets this far in politics without some skeletons.
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Old 03-20-2004, 01:21 PM
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dont insult christophe with being the one who cut his hair because it looks like a fantasic sams cut for $8
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Old 03-20-2004, 02:06 PM
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DA, I have a hard time understanding your defense of him. I'm not saying this in comparison to Bush, because he has his share of negatives too.
Well, I've been known to defent the President as well. What I don't like is totally one sided arguments -- especially when they are not particularly pertinant or well supported.

Truth is, I don't like either of them much, but the thought of another four years of expanding the deficit while decreasing in income (tax cuts) scares the hell out of me. That's especially true of one who is approaching (only nine years now) Social Security age with the strong possibility of present government money management largely limiting or even eliminating those benefits. I won't be in as bad a shape as many (as long as the market is reasonable), but from a purely shefish standpoint, I've paid into Social Security since I was fifteen, and I want the benefits. Period.

Do the math. You simply can't keep spending more money while cutting income.

I also don't like being lied to, and that continues. There is an arrogance in the White House that I've never seen before. I'll leave it at that.

Having said that, when someone (Democrat or other) brings an unfair or impertinent argument against the President, you'll see my hackles up on that as well.
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Old 03-20-2004, 04:11 PM
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I liked this piece until I read this. That's a load of crap, and apparently when poor Mr. Brooks was at Chicago he never learned about the new class.

I have to go pick cotton now because I guess I'm poor or something. Also, Colonist, those Lyndon LaRouche people attacked us at the Cap South Metro stop - they called my mommy a capitalist pig.
What is wrong with what he said? The Democratic party is filled with a lot of people who aren't poor but are lower middle class. The Democratic party has been mostly associated with immigrants who fight to pay for a home.

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Old 03-20-2004, 11:14 PM
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What is wrong with what he said? The Democratic party is filled with a lot of people who aren't poor but are lower middle class. The Democratic party has been mostly associated with immigrants who fight to pay for a home.

-Rudey
--The Dixiexrats were not the defining class of Democrats
I just don't like his characterization that the Democratic party is still traditionally being viewed as poor - why? Because we don't raise as much money as Republicans? Asians, the most recent immigrant group, tend to vote Republican, as do Hispanics. I don't really think the Democratic party is a party of the poor working-class man anymore - and I think that's why Edwards didn't succeed - he doesn't understand the base.
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:33 AM
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Oh Paleeze,

damn children, how many foggy bottom mountain boyos do you know that leave THEIR TERMS POOR!?? It becomes a Profession!

Figure out how much it cost to get them there, their salaries, plus perks, lobbiests gifts, ETC, ETAL!

I have not figured out if any of you are Liberals or Conservatives, Dem. or Rep. unless you said so!

Labels get to be so much BULLSHIT! DONT YOU GET IT!

Do the god damn math, you cannot keep giving with out paying some where down the line!

College Grads or Students seem to make the dumbest People!

Why not ask the small business man, or the people on the street!

Some of you get to be self important asses!

Why in the hell dont you try working six days a week owning a small business not knowing how much longer you can keep the doors open!

Screw ever damn one of you! Get a real life, live a real life!
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Old 03-21-2004, 09:49 AM
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Small businesses like Tom's and ours are getting hammered.
Though very different in terms of product vs service, we have so many walls put up, blocking the ability to maximize success.
You have these tax brackets. Now it's just dandy if you are toward the top of your bracket, but if you just happen to fall into a higher level by a couple of thous-you get creamed. A few years back an article was released that said small business owners work the first 6 months to pay their taxes. The rest of the year covers the essentials. Where's the profit? I looked, but couldn't find the original article. So what does this have to do with JK?Here comes the tax man...

DA-I hope you didn't take my question as anything but curiosity.

My biggest burn on taxes is where they go. It REALLY ticks me off
to work hard and try to save in a country that seems to reward "failure".
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Old 03-21-2004, 12:55 PM
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DA-I hope you didn't take my question as anything but curiosity.
JAM,

No problem at all. As I've said over and over, things I say are only opinions. I get a little testy with those who are so intransigent that they either don't realize that, or aren't interested in anyone's view but their own.
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