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02-06-2004, 12:57 AM
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Rudey, not atheist, "theist"
ag·nos·tic __ (_P_)__Pronunciation Key__(g-nstk) n.
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a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.
the·ism __ (_P_)__Pronunciation Key__(thzm)
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Belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in a personal God as creator and ruler of the world.
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02-06-2004, 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Rudey, not atheist, "theist"
ag·nos·tic __ (_P_)__Pronunciation Key__(g-nstk) n.
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a. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God.
b. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
2. One who is doubtful or noncommittal about something.
the·ism __ (_P_)__Pronunciation Key__(thzm)
n.
Belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in a personal God as creator and ruler of the world.
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I knew what both of those were...I saw the "a" before theist and that's why i got confused.
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02-06-2004, 01:09 AM
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I knew what both of those were...I saw the "a" before theist and that's why i got confused.
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02-06-2004, 06:02 AM
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I married a Mexican Catholic that was born American and I am born French but Persian and also Shi'ite Muslim.........lol....... I also dated so many different nationalities my friend nicknamed me the U.N. Player lol.............. oh well, variety makes life interesting. but i have come across difficulties because they dont want to date me cuz of their family or they want to marry a girl with the same race/religion, but they like me....so weird, but I understand. I know its harder for me cuz guy's family afraid that we will have Deaf children. I GURANTEE YOU EVERY GUY I HAVE DATED, THEIR MOM SAID WHAT IF YOUR KIDS END UP DEAF.
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02-06-2004, 10:19 AM
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I am Catholic and would prefer to marry another catholic (so i can get married in a church) but if I met a wonderful man that is perfect for me that is not catholic we can have an outside weeding (then I can convert him and we cn get our vows blessed, well that is the plan)
I don't care about race. My mom is Irish and my dad is Native America/German. PLus I live in GA, half of the population is not my race. It just makes it easy to keep things broad.
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Nowadays, in the Catholic Church, you can marry whomever you want to marry in the church...athiest, Jewish, muslim, whatever....you just have to go through the classes (like you would if you were both Catholic) and you have to promise to raise your kids Catholic (I guess my mom's going to Catholic hell, caz that's what her and my Lutheran dad did...and I'm sure not Catholic...but I did go to highschool at a Catholic school.)
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02-06-2004, 10:29 AM
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Ok....so I would LOVE to date someone who was Jewish. But to tell you the truth, all of the Jewish guys that I have ever dated have been interested mainly in sex...and pretty much nothing else. Even recently, I started going to Chabad partially to meet jewish guys because, yes, the jewish culture is REALLY important to me, and I would absolutely love to seriously date someone who is jewish as well. BUT.....almost all of the guys I have met are interested in hooking up...and nothing more.
Interestingly enough, all the guys I've ever gotten even remotely serious with were Catholic. I sort of have this feeling that as much as I'd love to marry someone Jewish, I'll probably end up marrying someone who's not...because that's just the way it seems I'm headed!!!
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I'm the same way! I've only seriously dated one Jewish guy and he turned out to be a real loser. The rest of the Jewish guys I've met have only wanted a hook up. The only guys that I've been serious with have been either Protestant or Catholic. I, too, would have liked to have met a "nice Jewish boy" but unfortunately, the ones I met weren't "nice".
In high school, I joined BBYO and in college I joined our Jewish Greeks organization but I just didn't find any nice Jewish boys. 
I think of it this way: as long as you meet a nice Christian guy who doesn't mind that you want to teach your children about Judaism, than it's all good.
Some of my Jewish guy friends have even gone as far as to say they'll only date an Ashkenazi Jewish girl. ????? why? I'm half Sephardic and half Ashkenazi so I guess that means I'm off their list.
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02-06-2004, 10:47 AM
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Hillel is the organization that is affiliated with a college campus. Chabad is just Orthodox Judiasm. Hillel may have Refom, Concervitive and/ or Orthodox Jews.
Well, here's my story: I'm Jewish (Ashkanazi) and American. Ashkanazi is the most prevalient in the US. The guys I've been interested in have also been Ashkanazi. However, I've just recently been out with a Sephardic Israeli. His English was poor and it was very difficult for me to understand him. He was exteremly nice, but not for me. I could not be happy with someone who did not know English and/ or the American culture to make me feel more at home and at ease. It was NOT the fact that he was Israeli or Separdic. But we are litterally from two different worlds and I could not see having a happy harmonous home in the future.
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02-06-2004, 11:01 AM
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Hillel is the organization that is affiliated with a college campus. Chabad is just Orthodox Judiasm. Hillel may have Refom, Concervitive and/ or Orthodox Jews.
Well, here's my story: I'm Jewish (Ashkanazi) and American. Ashkanazi is the most prevalient in the US. The guys I've been interested in have also been Ashkanazi. However, I've just recently been out with a Sephardic Israeli. His English was poor and it was very difficult for me to understand him. He was exteremly nice, but not for me. I could not be happy with someone who did not know English and/ or the American culture to make me feel more at home and at ease. It was NOT the fact that he was Israeli or Separdic. But we are litterally from two different worlds and I could not see having a happy harmonous home in the future.
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No Chabad is part of the Lubavitcher movement.
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02-06-2004, 11:03 AM
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Some of my Jewish guy friends have even gone as far as to say they'll only date an Ashkenazi Jewish girl. ????? why? I'm half Sephardic and half Ashkenazi so I guess that means I'm off their list.
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Why? Because that's what they want. What's it to you? You probably don't even understand the difference between Sephardic and Ashkenazic traditions. The two have completely different histories and experiences. The two have different religious services. There are differences in religious material that the two use including the tefillin, etc. Please don't be so close minded to question what others do and roll your eyes.
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02-06-2004, 11:08 AM
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I'm actually quite aware of the difference between the two cultures. My mothers side of her family still speaks Spanish and the food we eat when we get together at my mother's families place is completely different than my father's. I know the history of the Sephardic Jews; I know all about my family in Spain and their experiences during the Inquisition and their movement to Turkey and Morocco.
I'm also very aware of the difference between the Sephardic Jew religious ceremonies vs. that of the Ashkenazic having experienced both.
I don't think I'm being close-minded. I grew up in a family where the two cultures were mixed and there was never a problem. I always felt that if you're Jewish, than you're Jewish and just could never understand why there's almost a preference in our own religion. We deal with so much predjudice from others only to create a bias within ourselves but this is way off topic from the intention of the thread.
Maybe in religious aspects such as Orthodox vs. Reform but I just never thought the difference between being Ashkenazic and Sephardic was so drastic that it meant you would only date one or the other. If that makes me ignorant, than so be it.
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02-06-2004, 11:20 AM
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I think you can have happy marriages with people of different religions, but only if both are willing to work for it and make some compromises. My aunt is Catholic. Her husband is a Muslim. Her 2 boys go to a Catholic school, but they also go to religious services at the Mosque. I think it's great that they are exposed to both religions.
My aunt does not participate in the Islamic religious services, no celebrate Islamic holy days. She does however encourgae her husband to maintain his faith if that's what he wants.
So, 2 interfaith marriages/relationships can work, but only if you want them too.
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02-06-2004, 11:41 AM
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I don't have problems dating outside of my race as long as we can relate to each other. It doesn't matter if they're asian, white, hispanic, whatever...as long as they were raised like me.
On the other hand, I'm picky when it comes to religion.
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02-06-2004, 12:02 PM
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Nowadays, in the Catholic Church, you can marry whomever you want to marry in the church...athiest, Jewish, muslim, whatever....you just have to go through the classes (like you would if you were both Catholic) and you have to promise to raise your kids Catholic (I guess my mom's going to Catholic hell, caz that's what her and my Lutheran dad did...and I'm sure not Catholic...but I did go to highschool at a Catholic school.)
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Oh I did not know that, I always thought they both had to be Catholic, the only thing my church says that to be married in that church one of the memebers has to be actives for X amount of time and any questions go to the priest. I am not going to go just to see, since I am not getting married (yet)
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02-06-2004, 12:10 PM
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I'm actually quite aware of the difference between the two cultures. My mothers side of her family still speaks Spanish and the food we eat when we get together at my mother's families place is completely different than my father's. I know the history of the Sephardic Jews; I know all about my family in Spain and their experiences during the Inquisition and their movement to Turkey and Morocco.
I'm also very aware of the difference between the Sephardic Jew religious ceremonies vs. that of the Ashkenazic having experienced both.
I don't think I'm being close-minded. I grew up in a family where the two cultures were mixed and there was never a problem. I always felt that if you're Jewish, than you're Jewish and just could never understand why there's almost a preference in our own religion. We deal with so much predjudice from others only to create a bias within ourselves but this is way off topic from the intention of the thread.
Maybe in religious aspects such as Orthodox vs. Reform but I just never thought the difference between being Ashkenazic and Sephardic was so drastic that it meant you would only date one or the other. If that makes me ignorant, than so be it.
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And I'm sorry if you're wrong. You're ignorant because you're questioning someone else's beliefs and not accepting their religious beliefs. And more Sephardics are NOT spaniards. There is no bias - it is simply the fact that religion separates the two in a very difficult way and you seem to think it's culture because that is what YOU care for. I'm not going to get into this further because you don't seem to understand and don't want to understand but the religious aspect is deeply rooted and extends into things like what you can eat to Kabbalistic beliefs that are so incredibly complex that they've been discussed for hundreds of years.
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02-06-2004, 12:14 PM
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I've dated and been with every race but a black woman. I'd be very open to one and am waiting on an Ethiopian girl to come serenade me any day now.
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