Uggh

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by CC1GC
I tear into my spoiled buddy all the time...and yeah, he is spoiled. Now in his 6th year, all i hear from this kid is 'oh i'll have three degrees, making 60 k right after graduation', 'i'll sell my stock and that will pay for my first car'...blah blah blah. His parents have paid his way the whole time without any concern of gratitude. He skipped so many classes, never studied - basically dicked around most of the time doing the bare-min. I think first year he even said something to the affect of, oh your parents didn't save any for you because they didn't think you would go to university. I only wish i had that kind of leverage now, instead of starting out with large debts and 3-4 yrs financially behind.

Maybe you can see why people like me have opinions of kids that had it a little better.

it's tough - when you're in a situation when you're working all the time plus school, you can't help but feel a little jealous of those who aren't working. it's not necessarily the right way to feel, but it enters your thought process.

[CC1GC]

Originally posted by Rudey
Go to partypoker.com. It helps supplement my income.

-Rudey
--You spoiled prick!

no thanks, i'd run into guys like my roommate who would take all my money.
- think Matt Damon from rounders

[AXJules]

It sounds retarded to say that people hold your "fortunateness" against you, but it happens all the time.

For example, one of my friends who is putting himself through school turns into a little bitch whenever I ask him to go out: "Sorry, my daddy doesn't pay for everything I do...I actually have to get off my ass and have a job." I may not work while I'm at school (they don't usually hire a lot of people from out of state) but that's not to say I'm not CONSTANTLY doing homework and working on my ad portfolio for graduation.

And as soon as you say anything about it....like "I'm not spoiled!That hurts that you think I do nothing all day" you get "Stop bitching. Your life is perfect, you have nothing worth complaining about."

Um guess what- If you buy me the car I want, the house I want, send me to college- there's nothing stopping people from dying, or yourself from getting sick...I could go on and on. Having everything set for school is really nice, but it doesn't guarantee my life will be any easier than yours.

[sugar and spice]

My parents could afford to put me through college but they decided not to. My mom put herself through college and I think she thinks that it's as easy to do that now as it was then, which is nothing close to the truth.

They came up with a solution that I think was a decent compromise: They pay for four years of tuition (up to a certain amount -- they weren't going to cover four years at Macalester at $35,000 a year, for example). If I end up going for longer than that (which I will), I have to pay the extra years. Between them and my grandma I also got a lump sum of money as a "high school graduation gift" for housing and everything else, enough to cover about three years. Anything beyond that I have to come up with myself. And I think that's a reasonable solution because it allows me to make the decisions about how much I'm going to pay for where I live and what I do with my extra money, whether it's worth it to go for an extra semester or two if it means paying more, things like that -- but I still don't have to sell myself on the street corner trying to come up with the money every month and I can pay my sorority dues and go on vacation for spring break if I want to.

Of course there are some spoiled brats out there, but I think most of y'all whose parents pay for everything are just lucky.

[aggieAXO]

I am spoiled and I admit it. I did however pay for all of my schooling myself. My mom did buy me a townhome and car so I didn't have to worry about rent or car payments (until the last year in school when I bought my mustang, but even then she paid for 1/2 of the car and I paid for the other 1/2). I never worked during school just during the summer-she also supported me some during this time.

When I sold the townhome we made a 10,000$ profit b/c of the work I put into it so she did get her money back. She put up the down payment for my condo here in Austin. We sold it this year and made a very nice profit so she was repaid.

My mother still does a lot for me and people say I am very spoiled but she has taught me how to handle money, buy and own a home-lessons that are priceless IMO.

If I have children their schooling will be paid for as long as their grades are good.

[AXO_MOM_3]

Neither of my parents attended college. My father has only an 8th grade education. But they managed to pay for my tuition, books, and provided a monthly allowance. I appreciated every dime my father had saved for my college education, and made the most of the experience. I worked part time to pay for my sorority dues and car.
MRAXOMOM3 had it pretty easy - never had to work, parents bought him a condo while he was in school, and he is about three classes shy of a degree 15 years later. I think he realizes now that if limits had been set, he might have actually been a little more serious about school.
We don't intend to hand our girls everything on a silver platter. We will however give to them as long as they appreciate it and use the gift wisely. I hope they will also appreciate being "spoiled"!

[James]

Well . . . you're a little touchy so it may not be totally your roomie.

Originally posted by ztawinthropgirl
My parents paid for my tuition, car insurance, books, and rent/utilities. I am very grateful for what they did. I was able to do other things and have a little fun. I had good grades.

I lived with a girl that was jealous that my parents did all of this and I didn't have to work. I did work just to have a little extra money. Whenever I left for work, this girl would bitch about something. For instance, she'd bitch that I hadn't taken out HER dog, or cleaned up HER crap that was strown all over the common living room, etc. She told me she wanted me to do it before I left for work since she was the one that let me live with her. I told her to shove it and just walked out the door. As I walked out the door, she proceeded to call me a spoiled bitch that had my parents pay for everything.

Oh well. I am grateful for what my parents did and am ready to get out into the real world to do my own thing. Yes, that might seem like a slap in my parents face for some people in a weird kind of way, but that's what my parents paid tuition for, for me to get a job and pay for my own things in the real world.

[GeekyPenguin]

My parents pay up to a certain amount every year. Luckily, after transferring, my scholarships and grants and loans keep me under that amount. I didn't work freshman year of college because my parents didn't want me to, and it was a really good decision on their part. Since then I've worked, but this semester I'm cutting back to help out the GPA.

I don't like the fact that there's such a chasm at MU - there's kids who think I'm spoiled because my parents pay the difference between my scholarships and tuition and pay for my apartment, etc, but then there's kids who think I'm poor because I have a job and had to take out loans.

I know damn well I'm spoiled and I don't feel bad about it - I see that the education my mom got here has ensured that she's able to provide for me. My parents financed my car loan for me, but I've paid it all back, which is awesome for me, since I'll have tons of loans by the time I'm done with school. I know that I'm learning to manage money (albiet not my own) and live independently, and most of these FIBs aren't getting that.

[Sugar_N_Spice]

Originally posted by KSigkid
it's tough - when you're in a situation when you're working all the time plus school, you can't help but feel a little jealous of those who aren't working. it's not necessarily the right way to feel, but it enters your thought process.

I completely understand...I grew up in a single-parent household, where I worked even in high school, got good enough grades to get into a prestigious university, and am paying my way through college via work (I work just about every free hour I can when I don't have class or meetings or activities during the week), loans, and scholarships. I have some friends that are pretty well off, but I am not jealous of them (at least not most of the time), nor would I hold that in and of itself against them. For example, my roommate is well-off (her parents pay her rent and she has a car), but she works (I've seen her work two jobs) to cover her other expenses (and She does not walk around wearing Prada or Burberry). What bothers me about some people I know who have their expenses paid by their parents is when I know they don't appreciate it, when they complain about how hard they have it (in terms of school--not life in general), and when they don't even try to save money when they can (ie. spending $$$ frivlously then complaining that you are broke, or complaining that you don't have time to study and are tired when you are taking less classes than me, do not work, and are not involved in any on-campus organizations or clubs, and then you don';t get good grades). If your parents pay all your bills, and you've never worked ever in your life, and your not at all involved in campus life, do not complain to me that you are (1) broke or (2) tired and don't have time to study, b/c chances are, you can't be as tired or broke as I am...

***By the way, I do commend those of you who are paying your own sorority expenses (it shows that you do take on some responsibility and aren't part of the category of people I am speaking about above) ***

[kddani]

I think some of the "bitterness" comes from those who have everything paid for THEN whine about not having money. As a former treasurer, I can assure you that I felt that bitterness. My scholarships paid for tuition, my parents did help out w/ room and board- but I worked to support myself and pay my own bills. As treasurer, when people came whining to me about money problems, but yet they drive a brand new car their daddy bought them, they don't have a job, and they just can't pay because they spent daddy's check this month on those brand new Seven's or whatever, I have no sympathy. If you can't survive on what daddy gives you- GET A JOB. Some people act like it's the end of the world to get a job when you're in college. News flash: millions of people do it! And it's not like they were atheletes or in a super demanding program either.... they had plenty of time to go to the bars, but not get a job.

Or maybe (this is just a guess), some of you don't realize what you say to others. If you make fun of someone or bug them about going out when they can't because they have to work, they're going to be bitter towards you. It goes both ways. If you're gracious about having the luxury of having things paid for, then there wouldn't be as much of a problem. But if you're obnoxious about it, you're going to have some people annoyed with you.

*Disclaimer- this is not about anybody in particular! This is based on my general experiences in life. I don't know how any of you act outside of GC, don't know and don't care who has money or not. Just giving my opinion from someone who has been "bitter" (for lack of better word) towards those who had everything paid for.

[veemers]

this is the way i see it -

you have to go to school up to 16 years of age (or whatever it is in your state) and your parents have to support you until you are 18.

going to school as a minor is required. college is an option. it is therefore something that you want. if you want it, YOU should pay for it. not your parents.

if i have kids and they want me to help pay for their higher education, and i can, then i will. but they'll have to pay back what they borrowed from the Bank of Vanessa.

i know this sounds cruel and heartless, but it's just how i feel. sure, maybe i'm bitter because i don't have a credit card that Daddy pays off for me and because i don't have a "monthly allowance."

but at least i know that i can support myself.

Originally posted by veemers
this is the way i see it -

you have to go to school up to 16 years of age (or whatever it is in your state) and your parents have to support you until you are 18.

going to school as a minor is required. college is an option. it is therefore something that you want. if you want it, YOU should pay for it. not your parents.

if i have kids and they want me to help pay for their higher education, and i can, then i will. but they'll have to pay back what they borrowed from the Bank of Vanessa.

i know this sounds cruel and heartless, but it's just how i feel. sure, maybe i'm bitter because i don't have a credit card that Daddy pays off for me and because i don't have a "monthly allowance."

but at least i know that i can support myself.

Finally. A post that makes sense.

I've seen the bitching and moaning that kddani was talking about. These girls would pay their dues late but they took action everytime a big sale hit the mall. They always complained about not having $$$ but they were always sooooo quick to flash their parents' plastic.

These are the people that I cannot stand. I mean, sure--it's okay if your parents paid for your crap. Just don't act spoiled. Consider yourself fortunate, because there are a lot more people out there who aren't as lucky.

I had three jobs and was in a sorority in college. If I could handle three, why can't more people get at least ONE?

Paying my own way through college was one of the best things my mom could have done for me. It taught me how to be responsible and organized, and you can bet that I'll be doing the same for my children.

[Munchkin03]

More than anything, I hate snide comments about my financial situation. I have an uncle who constantly gives me guff about money, when he has no idea about how school is being paid for (he assumes it's loans and working--like it was for him, it's actually my parents--for both now and undergrad). I've basically cut myself off from being around him because I hate hearing either about how spoiled rotten I am, or how I can't do things my 'rich' friends do. It's like, pick something to be bitter about, okay? I know it's because he feels he missed out on a lot because my grandparents didn't pay for anything for him---but he shouldn't take it out on me because mine did and he doesn't know about it.

I didn't have to worry about tuition or housing (Because I did well. Had I not, I would have been on my own, and if I couldn't swing it, I'd have to come home.), but I did have to pay for my "Munchkin" stuff. I didn't feel it was appropriate for my father to be paying for my birth control or tampons, nor did I want them to shell out for my Spring Break. I know if there's anything I need they'll always be there, but they have encouraged my sister and I to stand on our own.

[DeltAlum]

Some of your stories have brought to mind the day I met Mrs. DeltAlum. I've told it here before in a different context.

Her parents put her, both sisters and her brother through college. One of the sisters thru the Masters level, and the brother through Law School. They did it all on the money they made from a 300+ acre farm.

There wasn't much money left, but to them education was about the most important thing in the world.

So the day I first noticed her in a speech class, I hung around afterwards and asked her to dinner.

She told me she couldn't because her parents were putting her through college, and were paying her room and board, and that she couldn't waste their money.

Fortunately, I was able to change her mind.

But that, I think, is gratitude.

(Oh by the way, she was making some of her own spending money by doing a little modeling and singing backup in a local rock group -- which is a whole other story)

[honeychile]

Call me crazy, but what bugs me is someone telling me how I and/or my family should handle our finances.

I worked every summer from the time I was 15 through college, and during Christmas vacation. I never had a Spring Break - I worked. On the first day of the term, I paid my sorority dues for the year in one check. I had scholarships & loans, and my parents paid the balance. They didn't pay for things they felt were frivolous, but they were there when I needed them. I don't feel that I was spoiled, as I am extremely grateful that they were able to help me through college, and make sure that they know that still. I could not have done it without them, both financially and the instilling of a good work ethic.

DeltAlum, your wife sounds like a very classy lady - but you already knew that!