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Old 01-21-2004, 03:03 PM
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So you would rather have someone in office that is a creepy, money-grubbing sneak? Anyone but Bush? What is that supposed to mean? What do you have against Bush? Are you that partisan that you don't even care about issues?
Hmm...

Bush not a money grubbing sneak? What about the rampant cronyism that has plagued his administration.

Anyone but bush? It's supposed to mean exactly what it says. There are a great number of people out there who feel that Bush has pushed this country in a direction we should not be going.

Issues? Name your issues and I'll tell you what Bush has done that I don't agree with.
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Old 01-21-2004, 03:07 PM
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Okay, we are straying from my original question. Without talking about Bush, do you really not care about issues? WOuld you really not care who got elected as long as they were a Democrat? Doesn't the whole free health care thing scare you? Please forgive my "what's your problem with Bush" question, I realize I could answer my own question 35 times if I wanted to.
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Old 01-21-2004, 03:21 PM
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I'm not a democrat but I am liberal, which means that the majority of the time I vote democrat.

If the republican party had a viable moderate candidate out there to run against Bush, I would give him the same consideration I give the democratic candidates right now. It just so happens that when I say anyone but Bush the only "anyones" out there right now are dems.
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Old 01-21-2004, 04:41 PM
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Okay, we are straying from my original question. Without talking about Bush, do you really not care about issues? WOuld you really not care who got elected as long as they were a Democrat? Doesn't the whole free health care thing scare you? Please forgive my "what's your problem with Bush" question, I realize I could answer my own question 35 times if I wanted to.
No I really do care about the issues, and that's why there are some democratic candidates I prefer over others...It's why I wouldn't be caught dead voting for Lieberman at this point.

However, all things considered, when it comes down to it, on the issues I care about most, Bush is so far away from what I believe in that anyone more to the left is going to be an improvement for me. It is because of my stance on these issues that I, and many other people, are going to vote for someone other than Bush.

To be completely honest, there are far more things I agree with in the Libertarian Party platform than in the Republican platform.

Not to be critical, but I don't think any of the current plans for a National Health Care system label it as free. In Canada it is funded out of tax revenue, and there are a wide variety of options for Universal care that could be used.
I'm hoping to become a doctor and I'm all for a National Health Care system, b/c I don't think that being able to go see a doctor should be a privilage. Neither should being able to go a specialist who will make you better. Would such a system hurt my earning potential...yeah, but there are a lot of other ways to earn that type of money a lot easier than becoming a doctor, seriously. It's not about the money to me, and as someone who has wanted to be a doctor since the age of three it never has been.

The other major reason I approve of a national health care policy is that it will make our health care system better. Right now, contrary to what President Bush said last night, by any health outcome measure you want to use, the United States does not have the best health care in the world. Not anywhere close. Whether it's live expectency or infant mortality rates, we continue to slip lower and lower in comparisons to other countries. We may more of the most cutting edge technology, but that hasn't translated to better overall health. This is because only certain people are privilage to get access to those procedures. The rich continue to get richer and the poor get poorer.

I could go on, but instead, if you're interested in finding out more about a National Health program go to the Physicians for a National Health Program website at www.nphp.org
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Old 01-21-2004, 04:46 PM
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Now that is what I call a response... Thank you. In fact, as a result, I will go there, and see what they have to say. Also, I will pay a heck of a lot more attention to what the Dem's have to say in there upcoming debate on Fox. Brit Hume does a great job of moderating Democratic Debates, he is one of the most unbiased reporters on cable news right now, IMO. Anyways, Thanks for that post, it shows that you know what is going on...

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