OK, I'm lookin' at Babyface's new video and I'm thinkin'.......

[Shelacious]

Originally posted by Poplife:

Surprisingly, my hair texture is totally different now than it was when I first started growing out the perm. It went from nappy, to afro-ish, to wavy, to curly all within 1.5 years.

Now completely off the subject, I've also noticed that my hair texture was very different before having a relaxer (when I was twelve and old enough to decide) than before twelve. Hopefully, my daughter (when I have one) will not have to spend 2 hours every (other) week in the shop getting a hot press and curl, and trying hard to stay out of the rain. That is NOT a way for a child to grow up. She will know every braided, twisted and coiled style though!



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[AKA2D '91]

Originally posted by Shelacious:
Now completely off the subject, I've also noticed that my hair texture was very different before having a relaxer (when I was twelve and old enough to decide) than before twelve. Hopefully, my daughter (when I have one) will not have to spend 2 hours every (other) week in the shop getting a hot press and curl, and trying hard to stay out of the rain. That is NOT a way for a child to grow up. She will know every braided, twisted and coiled style though!

Girl, not only the rain, but you, well I could NOT go outside and play after I had gotten my hair pressed because it would "GO BACK"...LOL

"GO BACK" go back where? ROTFLMAO!

[ManndingoNUPE]

DG Sytl,

I am in agreement with you bra. The funny part about this, is that the producers of Soul Food are Black. I don't know why we continue to view our beauty through the lenses that were created by and for White America.

I think that we all can agree that we love our brothers and sisters of all shades, and some of us do have preferences. I love women, so I really don't care. Light, dark, brown, damn near white, who cares. If I see a Green woman, who is cute, I am going to holler. Ok, you can laugh if you want, but when you see me on the cover of Jet with my Green woman, just remeber what I said.

MN

[tickledpink]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
...Conversely, sistas, when have you ever seen a light-skinned black male hustler, drug-dealer, convict, thug, or otherwise negative character. It aint gonna happen.

You had me thinking there for a moment. Here goes: Allen Payne & Christopher Williams(New Jack City) & LL Cool J (In Too Deep - even though LL is not that light), & Ice-T (New York Undercover).

I also see many dark skinned brothas playing positive roles: Westly Snipes, Morris Chestnut, Omar Epps, Taye Diggs

and Brown to Dark-skinned sistas: Nia Long, Tyra Banks, ***whatever the chic's name is that played in Blade***, Angela Bassett.

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[This message has been edited by tickledpink (edited January 17, 2001).]

[Rain Man]

Another interesting topic.

Call me jaded, but I PREFER women who has long hair. I just think it is a subtle symbol of femininity. HOWEVER *in my best Art Fleming (Jeopardy!) voice*, I have also dated and/or gone goo-goo-eyed for sistas with short hair (Halle Berry style or au naturel). I have also dated a woman who had these short dredlocks that IMHO was rather cute. She was fine in body, spirit, and mind. In short, though I have preferences, I don't allow that to rule out those who happen to deviate.

Now for these sistas who are sporting the now-faddish short-n-natural hairdos. I say this out of pure comedy only: I am a bit skeptical about being intimate with one of these sistas. I am afraid that in the heat of passion when I look at her I might panic, because I'll think for a moment I was messin' with a dude. One sista I see frequently at First Fridays is a prime example. FINE lookin' sista, she just has one of them super-short fades like a man's. I have always wanted to holla at her, but when I see that hairdo, I chicken out. I don't want no "surprises", knowwhatImsayin'?

As far as my hair, taking another twist on this thread, I am (once again) going to get it straightened. I like my hair straight and semi-long (hair touching the back of the collar). Most folx think I am going to resemble Al Sharpton or James Brown, but I actually look East Indian--a woman on the street stopped me and actually asked me this. Currently, it is in a TWA (teeny weeny afro). I gotta try it again.

Anyway that's my $.25

[Poplife]

Actually I kind of feel you on the manly hair style thing. It's cute on alot of women but I like my hair semi-short (never past my chin). I myself can't get with black man that has a process because in the heat of passion I might get confused.

"Am I with Susy or Sam? Dang!"

Men that have naturally straight hair is a different story.

[Reds695]

Yes we all have preferences and there is nothing wrong with that, but if short hair on a woman is going to make you question on whether or not you are with a man or woman, than you have additional issues that go far beyond hair. Personally I have a short natural hair cut and men love it, I get play all the time. I was told that it shows confidence. Not to mention that men find it very sexy. And beleive me if you are with me sexually or any other way, there would be no doubt that I'm 100% woman.
But again there is nothing wrong with having a preference, because I really don't think I'm feeling the whole processed, greasy, my momma just pressed my hair look.
Just my $.13 cents worth

Originally posted by Rain Man:
Another interesting topic.

Call me jaded, but I PREFER women who has long hair. I just think it is a subtle symbol of femininity. HOWEVER *in my best Art Fleming (Jeopardy!) voice*, I have also dated and/or gone goo-goo-eyed for sistas with short hair (Halle Berry style or au naturel). I have also dated a woman who had these short dredlocks that IMHO was rather cute. She was fine in body, spirit, and mind. In short, though I have preferences, I don't allow that to rule out those who happen to deviate.

Now for these sistas who are sporting the now-faddish short-n-natural hairdos. I say this out of pure comedy only: I am a bit skeptical about being intimate with one of these sistas. I am afraid that in the heat of passion when I look at her I might panic, because I'll think for a moment I was messin' with a dude. One sista I see frequently at First Fridays is a prime example. FINE lookin' sista, she just has one of them super-short fades like a man's. I have always wanted to holla at her, but when I see that hairdo, I chicken out. I don't want no "surprises", knowwhatImsayin'?

As far as my hair, taking another twist on this thread, I am (once again) going to get it straightened. I like my hair straight and semi-long (hair touching the back of the collar). Most folx think I am going to resemble Al Sharpton or James Brown, but I actually look East Indian--a woman on the street stopped me and actually asked me this. Currently, it is in a TWA (teeny weeny afro). I gotta try it again.

Anyway that's my $.25

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by Reds695:
Yes we all have preferences and there is nothing wrong with that, but if short hair on a woman is going to make you question on whether or not you are with a man or woman, than you have additional issues that go far beyond hair. Personally I have a short natural hair cut and men love it, I get play all the time. I was told that it shows confidence. Not to mention that men find it very sexy. And beleive me if you are with me sexually or any other way, there would be no doubt that I'm 100% woman.
But again there is nothing wrong with having a preference, because I really don't think I'm feeling the whole processed, greasy, my momma just pressed my hair look.
Just my $.13 cents worth

Actually, my hair, when processed, often resembles Richard Grieco's in the movie "If Looks Could Kill".

I am sure that your short hair looks VERY good on you. Matter of fact, I am SO confident of that (HOW CONFIDENT AM I??!!), that in regards to your 100% woman remark, I'll take that as a personal invitation to holla at you *LOL* cause I am ALL MAN, all 5 ft 6 inches, and 155 pounds of me.
*LOL some more*

Rain Man

[serenity_24]

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:

Conversely, sistas, when have you ever seen a light-skinned black male hustler, drug-dealer, convict, thug, or otherwise negative character.

I had to think about that one myself.....

Did we all forget the original pimp, playa, balla, etc. Mr. Mack. He was the lightest pimp and the first pimp I ever knew.

And what is up with this?
3. Black people are not the only "folk" that watch videos. They choose women that will also be appealing to more than one ethnic group.

This maybe true, and if so it speaks a great deal about how the rest of the country feels about dark-skinned women (they are not appealing), and how some of us can easily accept it and use it as part of their argument in support of the behavior.

It's time to stop taking the media so personally. They don't know what we want unless we tune in. STOP WATCHING!!!

I assure you that if we stopped watching those shows and stopped buying those products that are only advertised when they feel millions of negros will be watching, the media would be singing another tune.

[PositivelyAKA]

many white men and asian men find dark skinned women appealing and sexy, however it is often detremental to their careers and family life to pursue black women in general because of ridicule and plain hatred that would be attached to them as a result. most black families don't disown their kids for marrying outside the race, but it happens alot the other way around, therefore many white men/asian men sneak, peep and long for the black woman because she is what they feel they can never have at least not with peace in this country. and unlike some of our men they are not willing to lose it all to taste the forbidden fruit, shoot an orange is an orange ie. women are women.

[sunnydays96]

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82:
MIDWESTDIVA and POPLIFE:
If you met me and liked me because of my business/ business casual style and short wavy hair, you would be upset if I grew Rasta style locks and nappy chin beard. If you said, "honey, I don't like that look, I preferred you in the manner in which I met you". Is that superficial or a legitimate.

Weight gain is natural with child birth, and if you are the mother of my child, my love is endless and without prejudice, but if your gaining two or three dress sizes because I'm treating you to some nice restauraunts, somebody going to Jenny Craig.

Again as with MidwestDiva, the question of who am I to tell her what to do with her hair? Nobody, I guess according to you. If I can't be consulted and asked my opinion on such a radical change, then I don't need to be with ya. Just as if you were short and natural and then shoewd up with a foot of weave. That aint the girl I fell in love with.

My love is unconditional, what I like isn't.

My statement about white men referred to your statement about "why is long, pretty hair so coveted in our race". I was just giving you an example of how others have the same emphasis on not wanting their women to cut their hair. Hair is coveted in every culture. In most cultures, the cutting of a females hair is taboo and only to be done as a sign of morning or great personal shame.

Love, peace, and hair grease. Or to be politically correct, should that be carrot oil?

ROTFLMAO

"My love is unconditional, what I like isn't."

I know that's right! I'm going to have to use that one.

[Poplife]

Originally posted by serenity_24:
And what is up with this?
3. Black people are not the only "folk" that watch videos. They choose women that will also be appealing to more than one ethnic group.

This maybe true, and if so it speaks a great deal about how the rest of the country feels about dark-skinned women (they are not appealing), and how some of us can easily accept it and use it as part of their argument in support of the behavior.

Who are you telling? Most of us know that and have acknowledged it. There are some people out there that think that every black video is casts by black people. My point was...if a man is casting a video, and light, bright, almost white women are what he likes then that is what will be reflected. I did not...I will repeat...DID NOT say that it was ok. I just said that it happened.

I don't understand how you can actually say that I am supporting their behavior. In fact my post was totally against it! I'm very aware of the controversy of dark vs. light in the black community and I'm appalled by it. Maybe even more so than you.

F.Y.I. I have observed MANY non-black men that find dark women very attractive. In fact sometimes I think BLACK men have a bigger problem with it then other groups of people.


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[PositivelyAKA]

oh if any of you can get a copy of "Soul on Ice" by Eldridge Cleaver then read the first chapter at least, it talks about why some black men pursue white women or have a facisnation with them. Eldridge held no punches on that subject peace.

[Reds695]

Originally posted by Rain Man:
Actually, my hair, when processed, often resembles Richard Grieco's in the movie "If Looks Could Kill".

I am sure that your short hair looks VERY good on you. Matter of fact, I am SO confident of that (HOW CONFIDENT AM I??!!), that in regards to your 100% woman remark, I'll take that as a personal invitation to holla at you *LOL* cause I am ALL MAN, all 5 ft 6 inches, and 155 pounds of me.
*LOL some more*

Rain Man

Rain Man

LOL, Rain Man you have me cracking up over here!

[serenity_24]

Originally posted by Poplife:

Who are you telling? My point was...if a man is casting a video, and light, bright, almost white women are what he likes then that is what will be reflected. I did not...I will repeat...DID NOT say that it was ok. I just said that it happened.

I don't understand how you can actually say that I am supporting their behavior. I'm appalled by it. Maybe even more so than you.

First of all, I didn't know we were competing

And secondly, I never said "you" were supporting the behavior, I said "People" use these types of remarks to justify why it happens. If you don't fit the bill don't swallow the pill.

I was just responding to the posts.