whatever happened to "no matter the letter, we're ALL Greek together"?

[33girl]

Originally posted by Zetagymnast
I have had this same problem at my school as well. I have heard people say that we are a veggie sorority because we are a local and not a national sorority. Also, can you be in a social and and a service org at the same time cause I thought it was a conflict of interestsl.

"veggie sorority"??? what is the story behind that insult? All I can think of are the Veggie Tales videos.

And yes, you can be in a social and service at the same time. I am .

[sairose]

Originally posted by Zetagymnast
I have had this same problem at my school as well. I have heard people say that we are a veggie sorority because we are a local and not a national sorority.

See, I just don't get why a local should be considered less of a sorority than an NPC one.

People will join different kinds of sororities for different reasons. See, I knew I could not afford an NPC sorority and I realized SAI better fit my life and my interests, so I chose to pledge them. Other people have an interest in service and choose to join orgs like APO because it better fits what they want out of greek life. Others will join a local sorority because, IMO, they are usually smaller and some people feel like they fit in better there. I simply don't understand why anyone should put down another Greek because they are in a different type of GLO.

[GeekyPenguin]

I think a main reason locals are considered by some to be lesser than an NPC org is their behavior. While obviously not every local behaves in the same way, many locals exist just to have letters and be "cool" because they're in a house. There's obviously members of a lot of great locals on here, but there's also locals that suck, just like some NPC chapters suck.

[WhirlwindTNX]

This is an interesting topic. I've never actually heard people or heard about people calling TNX a non-regular....or whatever...sorority.

They pretty much want to know why we consider ourselves multicultural...

[Sister Havana]

Several years ago, the Campus Activities Chair of my APO chapter contacted the IU Student Foundation to find out what we had to do to participate in IU Sing. (It is a competition where groups put together song-and-dance skits and it is great fun.) There were lots of brothers in the chapter who wanted to participate. The person in charge of IU Sing said that the competition was only open to residence halls and fraternities and sororities...and apparently APO didn't count as a fraternity because we weren't part of IFC.

[Zetagymnast]

Originally posted by 33girl
"veggie sorority"??? what is the story behind that insult? All I can think of are the Veggie Tales videos.

And yes, you can be in a social and service at the same time. I am .

It is a term that is used at my school for locals because they don't really know what our sorority is about and they make fun of us. Mainly, because we are not national and not at the time incorporated and some other locals on our campus have given us a bad name. I think it sucks, people hate on us all the time. Well, what do you think about being in a local and a national sorority at the same time? I have heard locals discuss it and even some of my sisters have talked about it.

[Zetagymnast]

Originally posted by sairose
See, I just don't get why a local should be considered less of a sorority than an NPC one.

People will join different kinds of sororities for different reasons. See, I knew I could not afford an NPC sorority and I realized SAI better fit my life and my interests, so I chose to pledge them. Other people have an interest in service and choose to join orgs like APO because it better fits what they want out of greek life. Others will join a local sorority because, IMO, they are usually smaller and some people feel like they fit in better there. I simply don't understand why anyone should put down another Greek because they are in a different type of GLO.

A lot of people run their mouth and don't really know why locals were founded and my nationals start out as locals but new locals always get played. My sorority was started in 1987 and we were the first sorority at my school but people still tried to hate us.

[33girl]

Originally posted by Zetagymnast
Well, what do you think about being in a local and a national sorority at the same time? I have heard locals discuss it and even some of my sisters have talked about it.

It's not whether the sororities are local or national, it's the TYPE of sorority that matters. You can be in a local social sorority and a national service sorority. But you cannot be in 2 social sororities, no matter what combination of national or local they are (2 n, 2 l or 1 n 1 l).

[Zetagymnast]

Originally posted by 33girl
It's not whether the sororities are local or national, it's the TYPE of sorority that matters. You can be in a local social sorority and a national service sorority. But you cannot be in 2 social sororities, no matter what combination of national or local they are (2 n, 2 l or 1 n 1 l).

We are a service local and i have heard some of my sister saying they want to join a national service. I don't think they know that you can't.

You may be able to be in two service sororities at the same time... in fact I'm nearly positive. What 33girl was referring to is that you can not be in two SOCIAL sororities at the same time.

[Tom Earp]

The main two words are Social and Service, oh my bad, a specific Type such as SAI!

There are different ruling bodies who have their own regulations.

While many are know by Greek Letters, they basically are not the same in the eyes of GreekDom!

We on greekchat hold a little different structure of rules!

If one goes back in History, there were NO Nationals Founded.

They were started at a single College. Therefore, they in esencence started as a local and became a National!

Fraternites have two major areas of founding of beds of Organizations, The Union and Miami Triads. The 2 oldest. That is not to say, that VMI, The Citiadel and others for Fraternities are discounted.

Some of the Soroitys have had the same thing, I beleive Farmington being one.

My Female Greek History Does lack a little!

I am sure, that there are some ladies who can present this much better than I can!

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Some of the Soroitys have had the same thing, I beleive Farmington being one.

My Female Greek History Does lack a little!

You probably mean the "Farmville Four." Kappa Delta, Sigma Sigma Sigma, Zeta Tau Alpha and Alpha Sigma Alpha were all started at the Virginia State Female Normal School (later Longwood College, now Longwood University) in Farmville, Virginia, in the late 1890's.

Add to that:

The Macon (Georgia) duo -- Alpha Delta Pi and Phi Mu,

The Monmouth (Illinois) duo -- Pi Beta Phi and Kappa Kappa Gamma, and

The Syracuse Triad -- Alpha Phi, Gamma Phi Beta, and Alpha Gamma Delta

[ajuhdg]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I think a main reason locals are considered by some to be lesser than an NPC org is their behavior. While obviously not every local behaves in the same way, many locals exist just to have letters and be "cool" because they're in a house. There's obviously members of a lot of great locals on here, but there's also locals that suck, just like some NPC chapters suck.

This is exactly what I was thinking as I read this, GP. I'm temporarily living in a town in upstate NY that just so happens to be a college town. There are ONLY local fraternities and sororities here. Unfortunately, they are the stereotypical representation of Greek Life. (MORE unfortunate is the fact that my uncle is the Chief of Police here!) When I first got here, and he went off on how terrible Greeks were, we sat down and had a long 'Greek Information' night. The sororities here, according to him, get into more trouble than the fraternities. I explained to him that the NPC or a national office would never allow an NPC sorority to operate like that. I was doing this a lot when the first Sorority Life came out!

However, I do know of an NPC GLO that is at a larger NY school that hazed the crap out of my cousin's wife's sister (I know confusing!). They were a local that had recently joined a national, and didn't want to 'conform' to the national's rules. They were telling me about all the stuff she had to do, and they couldn't believe how surprised I was! I suppose I fear for people who are in locals...not ALL of them. But, a lot of locals have warped senses of sisterhood. The same can be said of unruly NPC groups as well...

[GeekyPenguin]

ajuhdg, I have heard a lot about locals in NY from other boards I've been on - I think the ones in rural areas are the worst. My chapter's been national for 35 years now, and we get made fun of for NOT hazing. We're kind of the odd ones out.

[Zetagymnast]

Originally posted by ajuhdg
This is exactly what I was thinking as I read this, GP. I'm temporarily living in a town in upstate NY that just so happens to be a college town. There are ONLY local fraternities and sororities here. Unfortunately, they are the stereotypical representation of Greek Life. (MORE unfortunate is the fact that my uncle is the Chief of Police here!) When I first got here, and he went off on how terrible Greeks were, we sat down and had a long 'Greek Information' night. The sororities here, according to him, get into more trouble than the fraternities. I explained to him that the NPC or a national office would never allow an NPC sorority to operate like that. I was doing this a lot when the first Sorority Life came out!

However, I do know of an NPC GLO that is at a larger NY school that hazed the crap out of my cousin's wife's sister (I know confusing!). They were a local that had recently joined a national, and didn't want to 'conform' to the national's rules. They were telling me about all the stuff she had to do, and they couldn't believe how surprised I was! I suppose I fear for people who are in locals...not ALL of them. But, a lot of locals have warped senses of sisterhood. The same can be said of unruly NPC groups as well...

Well, I can tell you this.....my sorority is a local but we are a christian sorority. Hazing has never been a practice or ours and never will be. I was not hazed and I will not haze anyone esle. Of course I had to prove I wanted to be in the sororitu but I did have to disgrace myself while doing it. So, all locals are not bad.