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Old 07-09-2004, 05:59 PM
Tom Earp Tom Earp is offline
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Right, Wrong, or indifferent, it happened!

The School Holds No resposibility as it does not recognize them. That Means, they are covering their Asses.

Well maybe culpability can be brought in.

If the Girls were lout for fun and it went awry then it happened.

Death can be so damn final.

I am sure, that these new Pledges were nervous, but having the time of their short life.

What may seem right at the moment can and does lead to tradgity.

A moment of Hindesight can be a matter of life and Death.

I am sure, that there was no malice of fore thought about this ever happening!

So, did anyone ever think about the Girls that were there and what they may be feeling?

It was not on purpose and it happened. While everyone thinks about The Dead in this situation, what about the Living?

OMG, can you even Fathom What is in their heads now?
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Old 07-09-2004, 08:29 PM
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Well there are two different things here.

The girls were blindfolded. There was a car crash.

Even if there was some hazing intended, it wasn't responsible for the car crash. Accidents happen.
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Old 07-09-2004, 11:12 PM
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I think the key to good Risk Management is imagining the worst case scenario in advance of conducting an activity. The worst case scenario in a blind folding activity in a car is that you could have an accident and someone who was blind folded might be more injured or delayed in getting out because they were blind folded. It doesn't matter whether the person is a great driver or not. Accidents are called such because they are unplanned.

Regarding this incident in particular... they definitely didn't practice good risk management, and to most NPCs, blind folding new members is considered hazing. James is right, there were two separate issues.

This is a good example of when insurance may cover you versus when they won't. If a group of sisters is sober, following all driving laws, and returning from an approved event using the manner of transportation that was approved, it's covered by insurance. If a group of sisters is drunk, hazing, driving like maniacs, has blind folded members in the car or are travelling in an unapproved manner, then they won't be covered.

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Old 07-10-2004, 10:14 PM
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I'm going to apologize ahead of time for this, but the Super Bitch side of me is going to reply to your comment Tom.. and the only reason is because Kelly was a REALLY good friend of mine.

Those girls were NOT out for fun.. they were out to haze and to scare the siht out of the pledges. The girls involved (the driver, etc) had been in trouble previously for HAZING while still memebers of Alpha Sigma Alpha.

"So, did anyone ever think about the Girls that were there and what they may be feeling?"
^ I can tell you right now, I know how one of the girls, who happened to be a pledge was feeling. She is a good friend of mine, and was Kelly's BEST friend. She was more scared than she has EVER been in her entire 21 years before.

If I were Kelly's parents.. I'd be suing the hell out of the women of SKO and Plymouth.

I completely understand that it was an accident. But it COULD have been prevented, I really believe that. Hence, why I believe The Nesters should be suing the university. I don't agree with suing the parents.. but if that's what the Nesters have to threaten to get the wheels moving in the case.. then so be it.

Agree or disagree, that's up to you all.
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Old 07-16-2004, 09:33 AM
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Re: An unregnoized local's pledge event, leaves one dead

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[BThe blindfolded women were new pledges who had no idea where they were being taken, two of the women who were in the crash told the Concord Monitor. The university is looking into allegations that the trip was part of a hazing, or induction, ritual.

''I thought they were mad at us,'' student Valerie Levine said, ''and we were going to, like, a punishment. ''

Two sorority sisters sat in the front seat of Jeep Cherokee, the women said. The second seat was folded down, and eight women six pledges and two sisters were crowded into the back, they told the newspaper.[/B]
It makes you wonder what horror's they would've endured(willingly?)had the accident not occurred, and the sisters were able to carry out the full scheme of the "punishment".
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