1 less fraternity at SDSU

[josh8o]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Side note, any of you Guys from SDSU know anything about LXA recolonizing there?

hey i just got more info...
lambda chi bought the house in fraternity row that sammy is currently living in.

[Tom Earp]

Josh, thanks for update!!!!!!!

More info will be appreciated from you and Stan!

We on GC find out more than from Hdq!

Best to Both in the New Year!!

[hoosier]

Originally posted by josh8o
hey i just got more info...
lambda chi bought the house in fraternity row that sammy is currently living in.

I'll be inspecting their house during my next SDSU visit.

[Tom Earp]

Oh, HOOSIER,

I wish we could all meet up in SD and go to Old Town for Mex and Margs!




Not Bad For a Boy From Ks. , TOTO!

Ate Flipper in Ocean Beach one Nite!

[33girl]

Fact: unless Hoosier is a member of either fraternity that he walked into, or is a student/alum of SDSU who knows people at those chapters, what he did is pretty mofoing rude, not to mention trespassing in many people's books, including mine.

hoosier, if your evaluation of the strength of a fraternity is based on something petty like whether or not houses (which you oh so arrogantly invaded) were clean to your satisfaction, you are more pathetic than I thought. then again, you probably think any chapter that can't afford a maid and butler should be closed down.

[hoosier]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Oh, HOOSIER,

I wish we could all meet up in SD and go to Old Town for Mex and Margs!

If we were there next weekend, we could go to the Championship of the WUSA (Women's United Soccer Assn.). My fav sport. Atlanta plays Washington, DC (Mia Hamm's team)

I like the pizzas at Pizzeria Uno, too, (Guinness on tap) and there's a great breakfast place close by. Good fish tacos there too.

[DeltaSigStan]

I can't believe I watched that entire semi final only to have Atlanta score in the 90th minute then win in GG.......

I'm probably still going to go though. I get tickets practically free through AYSO.

I guess getting yelled at by coaches and parents while running around a field for 90 minutes and trying to keep two teams of aggressive teens while NOT getting paid actually has paid off......

Meh, I'm just going to ref club.....


Wait, what are we talking about?

[hoosier]

Originally posted by 33girl
Fact: unless Hoosier is a member of either fraternity that he walked into, or is a student/alum of SDSU who knows people at those chapters, what he did is pretty mofoing rude, not to mention trespassing in many people's books, including mine.

hoosier, if your evaluation of the strength of a fraternity is based on something petty like whether or not houses (which you oh so arrogantly invaded) were clean to your satisfaction, you are more pathetic than I thought. then again, you probably think any chapter that can't afford a maid and butler should be closed down.

Hoosier has never seen anyone knocking on the door at a fraternity house. Most people walk in, and look for someone to talk to. If you knocked on the door of most fraternities - especially during the summer - you would be standing there a long time.

Probably at a sorority, they have an officer or a little old lady alumna assigned to answer the door 24/7.

One way to see if a restaurant is any good is to look at their trash cans. Another way is to look at the restrooms. A good restaurant takes care of both.

One way I evaluate fraternties is on appearance - good chapters take care of their houses and furniture, trash and restrooms.

Also on my list of recently-visited chapters needing janitorial help are

SPE at Cal-Poly SLO
LXA at Cal-Poly SLO
Several at UCLA

My compliments to Sigma Nu at SLO - a very neat house.

I understand that you can't make the pledges clean the house anymore, but there has to be someway to get the job done - everyday, everyweek.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally posted by hoosier
I understand that you can't make the pledges clean the house anymore, but there has to be someway to get the job done - everyday, everyweek.

Here's an idea--why don't you travel the country, cleaning fraternity houses, before you start criticizing GLOs you have little to no experience with otherwise?

[KEPike]

Originally posted by hoosier
One way to see if a restaurant is any good is to look at their trash cans. Another way is to look at the restrooms. A good restaurant takes care of both.

One way I evaluate fraternties is on appearance - good chapters take care of their houses and furniture, trash and restrooms.

So before going into a restaurant, you go and check out their trash situation? I think that's called being a bum.

And if you evaluate fraternities on appearance, how do you evaluate fraternities without houses???

I know that as an alum I go back and the only reason for my visit is to check on the upkeep of the house. I have a very special bond with this one couch too...I could care less about my brothers, I really LOVE this couch.

[33girl]

Originally posted by hoosier
Hoosier has never seen anyone knocking on the door at a fraternity house. Most people walk in, and look for someone to talk to. If you knocked on the door of most fraternities - especially during the summer - you would be standing there a long time.

Then perhaps the fraternity is CLOSED for the summer. Many of the ones at my alma mater are, and so are the sororities (and no we don't have a little old lady or alum answering the door - if it's open, a regular old sister would answer it).

I just cannot get over this - maybe it's something people do in California (we sure as hell don't do it here) but this is just unspeakably rude. These are people's HOMES, not business establishments. I doubt you would be very happy with someone entering your home, door open or not, to check on its condition. I've been past lots of the fraternity/sorority houses at nearby colleges, but I certainly would not be so bold as to just walk in, any more than I would just walk in a random person's dorm room or apartment.

[kddani]

Originally posted by 33girl
Then perhaps the fraternity is CLOSED for the summer. Many of the ones at my alma mater are, and so are the sororities (and no we don't have a little old lady or alum answering the door - if it's open, a regular old sister would answer it).

I just cannot get over this - maybe it's something people do in California (we sure as hell don't do it here) but this is just unspeakably rude. These are people's HOMES, not business establishments. I doubt you would be very happy with someone entering your home, door open or not, to check on its condition. I've been past lots of the fraternity/sorority houses at nearby colleges, but I certainly would not be so bold as to just walk in, any more than I would just walk in a random person's dorm room or apartment.

Well said, 33girl!

Also, apparantly Hoosier is so important that Hoosier must refer to Hoosier in the third person when speaking of himself. Well I guess being the fraternity neatness-patrol IS an important job

Not only is what you're doing rude, but it is illegal! The property you are trespassing onto is private property. If it's owned by the fraternity, it belongs to them. If it is owned by the school, you are still a trespasser if you are not invited onto the property.

I sure as hell hope someone calls the cops on you next time.

Well at least it doesn't appear that you're venturing into sorority houses.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by 33girl
These are people's HOMES, not business establishments.

Truth is that most of the fraternity houses I'm aware of are run by house corporations and are, in fact, mini businesses.

What they're really closer to are dorms or mini apartments, owned by a house corporation rather than the university. (or, in some cases, by the university itself) In other words, the chapater doesn't own the house at all, but rather, leases it from the fraternity or alumni. The students don't own their rooms, they rent them. That's a business. Sorry.

During the day, at least, the common areas in dorms are open as are most university buildings -- the individual rooms aren't. Walking into the common areas of an apartment complex is not unusual.

Going into a persons room is crossing the line -- going into the common areas (living room, etc.) is not.

Summertime is a little more difficult. Many houses remain open, and more and more house corporations have now decided to rent rooms to non members in order to help defray mortgate and utility costs over the summer when most of the chapter is not living in the house. Which means the facility may or may not be locked up tight over those months.

[kddani]

Hoosier is not a business invitee to the property. Even if you were on the campus as a business invitee to the campus, he was not invited to the house and had no business going there.

[33girl]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Truth is that most of the fraternity houses I'm aware of are run by house corporations and are, in fact, mini businesses.

What they're really closer to are dorms or mini apartments, owned by a house corporation rather than the university. (or, in some cases, by the university itself) In other words, the chapater doesn't own the house at all, but rather, leases it from the fraternity or alumni. The students don't own their rooms, they rent them. That's a business. Sorry.

I have no idea what the SDSU houses are set up like, and frankly don't care, but if you walk into any of our houses at Clarion, you are in the HOUSE. There is no dormlike "common area." It also really doesn't matter who is paying who for what - you live there, and you think of it as your college home. If your Greek house is nothing more to you than glorified student housing, sorry, that's pitiful.

And as far as I'm concerned - that doesn't matter. I think the houses at Pitt are set up like this (entryway on bottom) and there is still no way in hell I would just stroll in, any more than I would randomly go walking into apartment buildings. I have no business being there, so why WOULD I be?