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Old 03-26-2003, 12:34 PM
ZTAMich ZTAMich is offline
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I feel like I should say something since I started the first thread on greek war deaths.... I did so to let other brothers know of the unfortuante death of a chapter's founding brother. Either it was here or someplace else that I think I saw something similar when 9-11 happened. I know it isn't the nicest thing to read and maybe it is only honoring greek soldiers but this IS a greek message board and that's what we normally talk about. I'm sorry if the whole thing offended people, I meant no disrespect towards other non-affiliated soldiers nor was I trying to start a thread for every greek killed in the war. I think the majority of us on the this board have a very high regard for those fighting for our country and know they are making a great risk for us all.

God bless them.
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Old 03-26-2003, 12:48 PM
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Your intentions were good, and I think the gesture is an honorable one. If anything, this thread reminds us to be thankful for our own lives and for the selflessness of men and women who are willing to put their lives on the line for us.

Thank you for your thoughtfulness. My prayers are with ALL the military...at home and abroad, Greek or otherwise.

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Old 03-26-2003, 01:26 PM
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We have 3 brothers from our chapter serving in Iraq. One who is a navy seal, one who is in the 1st Marine Expeditionary Unit, one air force air medic. We are definatly proud to have our brothers serving and that our chapter members play a huge part in operation Iraqi freedom. We miss seeing them in chapter every week but we know they are there for a good cause and will see them soon. Anyone else here have 3 or more chapter members serving in the Gulf????
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Old 03-26-2003, 01:30 PM
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All I have to say is THANK YOU! to all of the men and women serving during this scary time. You are the reason we can sleep a little easier at night. Greek or not, you are our heroes.
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Old 03-26-2003, 01:41 PM
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The argument over whether this thread is appropriate is so ridiculous that it would be laughable if not for the very serious subject matter.

Small towns around the country this week have held vigils and memorials for the men and women from those individual towns who were killed or captured.

Is this disrespectful to the dead and missing soldiers from OTHER towns? Should we write letters to the editor of their local newspapers and tell them to be more considerate? Good god, of course not.

We all feel the loss. And it's natural to feel a tougher loss for people you have something in common with - someone from your hometown, from your military unit, from your fraternity. So it's also quite natural, quite completely appropriate and in no way disrespectful that a community of greeks should pay particular attention to losses from our ranks.

I see nothing wrong with this thread whatsoever EXCEPT for the unprovoked attack against DeltAlum. Eirene, sorry to say it... but your lashing out at DeltAlum was completely inappropriate, even if understandable on some level. And though he isn't seeking it, I believe he's owed an apology.

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Old 03-26-2003, 02:21 PM
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Lance Corpral David Fribley, Kappa Alpha Order, Indiana State University
Very sad I knew David and also know his brother and cousin..
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Old 03-26-2003, 02:30 PM
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I don't really like this thread. It's kind of like we are keeping a tally on greeks that get killed in the war and that doesn't fly....
Then don't read it. It's that simple.


I, for one, appreciate this thread being started. Like someone else mentioned, we could always start a thread for loved ones and/or friends who are deployed or lost.
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Old 03-26-2003, 03:00 PM
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Small towns around the country this week have held vigils and memorials for the men and women from those individual towns who were killed or captured.

Is this disrespectful to the dead and missing soldiers from OTHER towns? Should we write letters to the editor of their local newspapers and tell them to be more considerate? Good god, of course not.
Excellent analogy.
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Old 03-26-2003, 05:20 PM
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Then don't read it. It's that simple.


No, actually it's not. I tend to read a lot of posts on these forums.
Almost a good observation though.....

The reason I said I didn't really like this thread (and that wasn't an attack against anyone) is because there are men and women fighting over there that aren't greek. Men and women that are dying that aren't greek or affiliated in any way.

I understand the whole thing about relating to these people because they are greeks. But there is a bigger picture. We relate to these men and women because they are Americans, like many of us on the boards. Men and women that are dying for our country. Some are greek and some not. Some are scholars and some are just the "average joe."

If we are paying tribute to those that are dying over there, let us do it FOR ALL of the men and women that are dying, not just those that are members of a glo. (Yes, I know people have been doing that and I applaud that.)

There, I hope that helped clear it up a bit, it's a little deeper than simply not reading it.
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Old 03-26-2003, 05:35 PM
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We received word yesterday, that a student from SIUE who was serving in the Marine reserves was killed in Iraq yesterday. He wasn't Greek, but a lot of my students knew him and said he was a great guy. It feels really wierd when something like this finally hits at home.
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Old 03-26-2003, 05:39 PM
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We received word yesterday, that a student from SIUE who was serving in the Marine reserves was killed in Iraq yesterday. He wasn't Greek, but a lot of my students knew him and said he was a great guy. It feels really wierd when something like this finally hits at home.
You know....that is exactly something I don't want to have to hear about or face. I have quite a few friends over there right now as I am sure many others do. All you can do is think, but it is reality and there is a chance that some of our friends may not return home alive. Yes, it is a very emotional time for me.....so I rant.....sorry.

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Old 03-26-2003, 07:56 PM
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It's bad enough that our young soldiers are dying in service to their country. But we have to argue about Greek/non-Greek, etc? Come one people. This is positively ridiculous. I think it's abundantly clear by now what the point of this thread is - to honor, to mourn, to pray for, and to revere ALL United States soldiers. No one had bad intentions when they started this thread. No one thinks Greek soldiers are better than non-Greeks. No one doesn't feel for those with friends and family members fighting in Iraq. No one doesn't support our troops (even despite how they may feel about the war). Y'all, I know this is a sensitive situation and emotions are running high, but let's remember a little respect and A LOT of maturity go a long way.

God bless our troops and get them home safe and SOON!!
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Old 03-27-2003, 07:04 PM
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Just saw a picutre of one of my chapters alum in the school newspaper, its a pic of him raising the MSU flag in Kuwait hope he comes back soon!
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Old 03-27-2003, 11:11 PM
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While this is a Greek Site and I feel it is a way of Honoring all of the Brothers/Sisters who are in the armed Forces who have their names listed as a way for all of us to memorialize in our own way to give our respect in a time of passing.

That is not to say that we who have freinds, family and loves ones are being dismissed.

Each and everyone of the fine people who are fighting and losing their lives are doing something for the betterment of all of us!

May we give honor due to all of them!

We do not know all of them but we have Brothers and Sisters who are there and should be given the honor that they desearve.

Let us pray for the safe return of all!
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Old 03-28-2003, 01:20 PM
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This whole situation is very sad. God Bless America and our military. I hope that they come home to their loved ones swiftly and safely.
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