BCS rankings just don't make sense - Page 3

The1calledTKE · #1 12-02-2002, 09:10 PM

Georgia is not going to lose. I doubt Miami will unfortunely. It's always nice to dream though.

librasoul22 · #2 12-02-2002, 10:12 PM

Who is WSU playing this weekend?

Sorry, but Miami is the best team in the ocuntry right now. And I am saying that knowing GOOD AND WELL that we should have beaten them in their house. Jinxes aside, we had that game.

As for FSU, come on. Cut us some slack. We beat a good UF team, as well as the same Iowa State team that beat the Hawkeyes.

Sure, we lost 4 games, but if we play like we did last Saturday I don't see any reason at all why we shouldn't win whatever bowl we play in.

ZetaAce and IowaHawkeye, in the event that we play wither the Hokies or the Hawkeyes, I am gladly taking GC wagers...

KSig RC · #3 12-03-2002, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by librasoul22
ZetaAce and IowaHawkeye, in the event that we play wither the Hokies or the Hawkeyes, I am gladly taking GC wagers...

oh shit - done and done, I'll take everything you have buddy . . . although Rix did play a pretty good game last week, for a piece of crap.

USC is in the clear - top 4 in BCS = guaranteed spot. Really, the only thing that can go wrong for the Hawkeyes is someone taking ND as the 2nd at-large, and that would be RIDICULOUS, especially after the scalping at USC this week.

Personally, I sorta hope WSU wins this weekend - I don't really want to play USC, they're way too hot, and Palmer was out of control against ND. I'll take WashState over them, easy.

amycat412 · #4 12-03-2002, 02:39 AM

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Originally posted by KSig RC

Personally, I sorta hope WSU wins this weekend - I don't really want to play USC, they're way too hot, and Palmer was out of control against ND. I'll take WashState over them, easy.

You are a smart, smart man. I've been a USC fan for 15 years, and I've NEVER, NEVER seen a team this hot, not w Rodney Peete, not with Todd Marinovich (lol), not with Mark Carrier, not with Keyshwan Johnson. And, MIKE WILLIAMS IS A TRUE FRESHMAN, my GAWD, I hope Matt Cassell, who will take over at QB next year has what it takes.

My favorite quote of the weekend is from Sportcenter the other night "No one, including Miami, is playing better football for the past two months than Southern Cal."

IowaHawkeye · #5 12-03-2002, 02:44 AM

I don't know - I'm pulling for a UCLA win. an Iowa/USC Rose Bowl would be hotter than the NC game.

Plus, I wanna run into Amycat and Mr. Amycat in southern cali and see who exactly this mystery man is

amycat412 · #6 12-03-2002, 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by IowaHawkeye
I don't know - I'm pulling for a UCLA win. an Iowa/USC Rose Bowl would be hotter than the NC game.

Plus, I wanna run into Amycat and Mr. Amycat in southern cali and see who exactly this mystery man is

ha ha ha I agree USC-Iowa would be GREAT! The only team I'd like to play more is Miami, Cause I believe we'd win, damnit, and then peeps would have to shut up.

As to who he/we are... lol But yeah, we'd have to meet up, I've already got my connection working on tickets.

Thrillhouse · #7 12-03-2002, 09:47 AM

Old Notre Dame could be up to it again. Its funny that they are even being considered for a BCS spot.

DigitalAngel126 · #8 12-03-2002, 11:16 AM

Anyone else remember the rivalry Miami and ND used to have? What I woudln't give to see them play again, esp in a bowl game.. Not going to hold my breath, but that'd be fun !

mrblonde · #9 12-03-2002, 12:57 PM

Yes, its imperfect. Yes, a lot of teams are where they should not be. Ive personally done loads of research on sports (in the pathetic hopes of landing a job somewhere on ESPN) and this is what Ive found: the panel of experts brought in to create the BCS were the finest coaching minds in college football (rumor has it that Jimmy Johnson, Eddie Robinson, and Barry Switzer had parts in it). Having said that, everybody has a different idea of the perfect system, and the worst thing you can do is incorporate incompatible parts of each. Strength of schedule is determined from opponents last years records (ex. if Notre Dame went 13-1 last year, that would make all their opponents schedules rank higher, even if, when they come around on this years schedule, they are 0-6). Current opponent strength has very little to do with the BCS score.

I know, theres not just that. But I think now some important points should be addressed:

1) Theres not going to be a playoff system. Ever. In the age of television sponsorship, theres just too much money to be lost.

2) 99% of the time, public opinion is that there is a definitive national champion. (sorry Oregon fans) No more Nebraska/Michigan nonsense.

3) A win is a win, even a near win. And losses do make teams go down the rankings, just not much. Look at it this way: If Florida State was #1, everyone on the team contracted the flu and they lost to unranked Tallahassee State Basket Weaving College, should they lose their ranking and TSBWC become the new #1?
I think one of the best things about the BCS is that it compensates for fluke wins and losses.

Thats my rant. I agree that the BCS needs a lot of tuning up, but its better than most alternatives. And the Associated Press and college coaches are getting along better than ever

P.s. The Oklahoma fans got really quiet all of a sudden...

amycat412 · #10 12-03-2002, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by mrblonde
I think one of the best things about the BCS is that it compensates for fluke wins and losses.

Despite my earlier rants on this topic, I now mostly agree with that statement. :P

KSig RC · #11 12-04-2002, 03:56 AM

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Originally posted by IowaHawkeye
I don't know - I'm pulling for a UCLA win. an Iowa/USC Rose Bowl would be hotter than the NC game.

Plus, I wanna run into Amycat and Mr. Amycat in southern cali and see who exactly this mystery man is

Amycat, you cool as hell, but I won't lie to you -

I'd rather win the game.

Just saying.

Kevin · #12 12-04-2002, 05:07 AM

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Originally posted by mrblonde

P.s. The Oklahoma fans got really quiet all of a sudden...

Of course

We lost to Ok State, a decent 7-5 team.. Fluke? Nope they just played better. I'll give it up to them.. Was a hell of a game they played. No fluke at all. Maybe next year we'll get a better QB. I like Hybl's chances in the PGA better than the NFL right now (he's a better golfer than QB from what I've heard).

With the talent coming into OU there's no reason why they shouldn't have won in a very lopsided victory. Can't say much else other than the Big 12 is a hell of a tough conference to be in...