Penn State Teke's in trouble - Page 3

The1calledTKE · #31 10-23-2002, 10:32 AM

Nothing is going to happen with IFC at the school until they see what happens with the investigation..

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...02dnews-04.asp

TPASteph · #32 10-24-2002, 05:15 AM

I go to Penn State.. most of the fraternities here rent their houses since most of them are worth millions of dollars. Unless they are large fraternities with rich alum it's not uncommon to rent houses. However, there is a house *like SAE* that is owned by Phi Sigma Delta Sigma that is just sitting empty until they recharter because their alum own it. It's sad really, the fraternity houses here are so gorgeous. I would love to get my sorority living in one of those, but unfortunately we don't have "sorority houses" here, or atleast not official ones. TKE has a gorgeous house and it'll be a shame if they lose it. Personally, I don't think that they should be charged anymore than serving to a minor. We all know that underage drinking is rampant on this campus, the girl is 20 and can take care of herself. If her friends thought she needed to be babysat I'm sure they wouldn't have invited her in the first place. Plus I'm sure not one sole person was handing out beer all night to watch to see how many she had drank. In the end, it was her fault, the beer wasn't forced down her throat. The only thing TKE did was supply alcohol and it was probably one or two people, not the whole fraternity. Hell, she could have brought her own beer, or drank before hand. The police here love to harrass the fraternities. TKE broke no rules by drinking at an apartment during dry week. During dry week fraternities cannot drink in the common areas of the house, like while on probation. The only functions they can have are regular chapter functions. Okay, I've typed too much. Time for bed. Sorry if none of this made sense, it is after 5am.

axotiger · #33 10-24-2002, 09:33 AM

Hey TPASteph ... I couldn't have said it better myself!!

Cheers to that!

DeltAlum · #34 10-24-2002, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by TPASteph
Plus I'm sure not one sole person was handing out beer all night to watch to see how many she had drank. In the end, it was her fault, the beer wasn't forced down her throat. The only thing TKE did was supply alcohol and it was probably one or two people, not the whole fraternity. Hell, she could have brought her own beer, or drank before hand. The police here love to harrass the fraternities. TKE broke no rules by drinking at an apartment during dry week.

Steph,

First, please take a look at previous posts regarding liability in terms of providing alcohol to someone.

Eupolis wrote:
Serving alcohol comes with responsibility just like drinking it does. The fact that the drinker fails at her or his responsibility does not absolve the server of responsibility. It may be a smaller responsibility, but it is still there.

Second, maybe she could have bought her own beer, but the chapter (or members) broke the LAW in providing beer to her -- whether it technically broke the "dry week" rules or not. She is under the legal drinking age.

TPASteph · #35 10-24-2002, 02:57 PM

If, however, it is the case that she brought her own beer, TKE is under NO liability because they did not purchase the alcohol for her.

madmax · #36 10-24-2002, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by TPASteph
If, however, it is the case that she brought her own beer, TKE is under NO liability because they did not purchase the alcohol for her.

You would think that, but I kind of remember a fraternity in Virginia that was busted having a BYO party. I dont remember the exact charge but were busted because they provided a place for underage drinkers to party.