Opposite Sex Members

[Rain Man]

I read an article somewhere that Kappa Delta Rho's Alpha Chapter went co-ed c. 1993 (I don't think the chapter is currently active, though).

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
I thought the Sinfonians at WIU, Kappa Psi, used to require that everyone took at least 1 music class a semester, whether it be Theory or marching band, whatever, just as long as it was music. Although, it could have been a local by-law.

Never heard of that one. That would have had to have been a local requirement -- one that I'm not sure exactly squares with current national membership regulations, but maybe.

I have a nagging memory that there may, at one point, have been a national requirement that every member had to take at least one music course (which could include a performance group) during the course of his college career, but if I'm remembering right that such a requirement ever existed, it's been long gone.

[Senusret I]

Originally posted by rustyshakleford
Hello, this thread was brought to my attention today. I am a 1990 graduate of the university mentioned in this comment and I would like to correct the factual inaccuracies concerning the end of the Phi Gamma Delta chapter and the beginning of the Yuai Community. Contrary to the account above, the local chapter collectively deactivated and ended their fraternity charter in response to actions by the national organization and other Fiji chapters in the country at the time. The former Fijis reorganized the house as a co-ed community. The deactivation was a decision made by the local members, not by nationals. I was one of the first women to become a member and move into the house for that year (1987-88). The student government and the university president made it impossible for the Yuais to remain in their house at the end of the year, and the group moved on to become a campus organization that promoted community, diversity, and tolerance. The Yuais also worked to found a co-op house which opened some years later and became independent of the Yuais in order to have an open membership. The Yuais in the late 80s rejected fraternity rituals, initiations, and hazing. None of our organized events resembled orgies, although perhaps that would have improved attendance at our meetings. I personally did not engage in the activities described above. Many of my friends who are Yuais, past and present, have never engaged in those activities. I do not intend to take part in a debate about this here as this will be my only post, but felt the record needed to be set straight.

In case you would like to see a contemporary version my account or read a true story about a fraternity going co-ed, you can read some the reporting of these events at the time by the student newspaper, linked to this site.

Like any student newspaper, this newspaper is also available to anyone who takes the time to look in the periodicals section of the university library. Please check your sources next time. Good bye and good luck.

Funny how nobody really cared in the first place.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Senusret I
Funny how nobody really cared in the first place.

OH SNAP!

-Rudey

[Senusret I]

Aside from the fact that I posted in it, this thread from a few years back was pretty cool.

Any more thoughts?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

I did read somewhere (it might have been the Robert Egan book) that Psi Upsilon (a NIC fraternity) can technically initiate women and they actually did (like 3 or less). The women in the chapter felt a bit like they were in a men's locker room. I will try to look it up and will post more if I find it......I think it might have been at "Middlebury College"?

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[oldu]

Lo and behold, the first time I tune in for weeks and someone beckons me! Sorry, I do not have direct knowledge of the Psi U information. However, most of the old eastern fraternities have always operated much more autonomously than the younger and larger ones. During the 1970s many, in fact, did initiate women in their chapters, probably unknown to the national officers because of their loose operation -- and several still do today.

In my own Delta Upsilon, the University of Chicago Chapter was initiating women for several years (Headquarters either ignorant or avoiding to know it!) to the point that they were in control of the alumni corporation and a very valuable piece of real estate. Somehow the men wrested control of the real estate and women were no longer initiated -- probably because sororities were introduced to the campus and were more attractive to join than DU.

I suspect than many fraternities with eastern chapters may have a few female members that they are unaware of. Some of you ask why? I guess it was a 70s point of rebellion.

tld221 where in the City are you located? I am just around the corner from the Guggenheim.

[KSUViolet06]

James Miller Leake (Kappa Sigma) helped write one of our songs and our ritual. He is the only man we have ever allowed to wear our badge.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Ah, a Psi U Question. Though I am kind of disappointed nobody thought to ask me. We have five coed chapters, though it never started like that. The chapters that are coed all started differently. But it started with the individual chapters autonomy as was mentioned. Long story mad short, one of our chapters was forced to go co-ed by the university it was on. SO they intiatied female members on their own. Eventually somebody at national was looking at the membership records and noticed a bunch of female names of new brothers. So yeah. Our constitution does not mention any thing about gender or race, so thats how they got away with it.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

Ah, a Psi U Question. Though I am kind of disappointed nobody thought to ask me.

Were you on GreekChat or a member of Psi U in 2002?

That's when the initial post occurred.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Were you on GreekChat or a member of Psi U in 2002?

That's when the initial post occurred.

I imagine he was referring to this post from yesterday, especially since he started a similar thread just last week:

Originally Posted by tld221

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[Senusret I]

Eh, I just don't think someone with 18 posts gets to be disappointed they weren't consulted on something.

[Psi U MC Vito]

You do have a fair point there. But it was the one area where I was one of only two people on GC that would probably know the answer.

[WinniBug]

I found out not long ago that someone on our campus who is undergoing a sex change wants to pledge our sorority. I don't want to be closed-minded or prejudiced at all,
but I don't know quite what to think about it.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by WinniBug

I found out not long ago that someone on our campus who is undergoing a sex change wants to pledge our sorority. I don't want to be closed-minded or prejudiced at all,
but I don't know quite what to think about it.

By the time they get done with having the surgery, it might be a moot point. It takes a long time to go through the whole process.

Are they living as a woman now?