Is a "Pimps and Ho's Party" disrepectful??? - Page 3

dzsaigirl · #31 06-07-2002, 11:58 PM

We have never had pimp and ho at UofH but when I was at SMU they had it and I went once. It was pretty stupid. And some people really did dress nasty. They were trying to outlaw it since date rapes were occurring and stuff.

lovelyivy84 · #32 06-08-2002, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by AOX81

Lighten up people, don't try to ruin things that others think is fun.

I personally have no problem with these kinds of parties, as long as my org's name isn't attached. I've been to one and had fun, no problem. Anybody can do what they feel like doing.

Maybe you meant that people shouldn't attack, but the way you phrased this it really came across to me 'if you don't like these parties then don't say it because you'll ruin other people's good time.' I don't care about the issue one way or another, but if someone else doesn't like it they have just as much of a right as you do to say so.

All the attitude was not even necessary. Check thyself por favor.

RUgreek · #33 06-08-2002, 04:37 AM

These party ideas are original and unique. I agree that things have gotten out of control to remain PC to all groups of people, whether they are the pimps or the hos

Have the mixer or party, it sounds to me just like any ol' costume party, what exactly is the harm in that?

P.S. Post some pics too, people always come up with the greatest ideas for these new themes!

- RUgreek

ROWDYsister · #34 06-08-2002, 05:35 AM

The first social we had when I was pledging was "Mobsters and Mistresses" which was basically "Pimps and Ho's of the Roaring 20's." It was funny that it snuck past Panhellenic radar, b/c when you think about it it was pretty ho-ish. Fishnets and boas for the girls, the guys get to look dignified in pinstripe.

Silverblue · #35 06-08-2002, 02:42 PM

Thank goodness this theme wasn't popular when I was in college in the late 1980s. I never would have gone to a mixer with such a title. My chapter has never had one, nor do I think it would, but last year, the chapter I ranked second on my bid card did. I was shocked and very glad I hadn't joined that organization. This is a perfect example of why Greeks have a bad image.

lilsnakeyk · #36 06-08-2002, 05:30 PM

We've done a Reverse Pimp and Ho's party. It's sooooooo much better that way. The guys get all dressed up in drag, and so do we. I think that the guys almost have more fun that way, or at least they acted like they did. (But be sure that those pictures didn't make it to their rush scrapbook

)

-Lil Snakey K

navane · #37 06-09-2002, 02:25 AM

I would never participate in a "Pimps and Hoes" party. Never.

......Kelly

Virtual Violet · #38 06-09-2002, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by phikappapsiman
I have to ask this...

I know that some fraternities have a "Pimps and Ho's" party. Some brothers want to bring it up to my chapter to have one, but I think that is it disrespectful, and kinda racist. Am I overreacting??? I mean, it's just for fun, but it just seems as if that is playing on bad sterotypes. What do others think??? Have we gotten so P.C. on campus that things like the KA's "Old South" party and the ever popular "Screw your Roommate" party are wrong? What do you think?

Ummmm.....YES its disrespectful. Not only the implication that pimps and hos denote a specific race (hence that it would be "kinda racist") (we all know prostitution is an equal opportunity business!), but as a woman, I wouldn't be caught dead portraying a "ho".

You have to remember the entire pimp/ho dynamic includes illegal activity and physical, mental and drug abuse of the prostitute to have her remain in the "stable". Yes, some prostitutes act voluntarily, but most stories include some sort of control to keep the money rolling in.

With that being said, I think the entire theme is disrespectful because of the connotations in that world, and isn't something to be trivialized in a party, even in the "reverse". (men as hos, women as pimps)

phikappapsiman · #39 06-09-2002, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Virtual Violet

Ummmm.....YES its disrespectful. Not only the implication that pimps and hos denote a specific race (hence that it would be "kinda racist") (we all know prostitution is an equal opportunity business!), but as a woman, I wouldn't be caught dead portraying a "ho".

You have to remember the entire pimp/ho dynamic includes illegal activity and physical, mental and drug abuse of the prostitute to have her remain in the "stable". Yes, some prostitutes act voluntarily, but most stories include some sort of control to keep the money rolling in.

With that being said, I think the entire theme is disrespectful because of the connotations in that world, and isn't something to be trivialized in a party, even in the "reverse". (men as hos, women as pimps)

Thank You, Virtual Violet, and everyone who has commented either for or against such a party. I realize that what Violet says is what I felt for myself about this party, and it isn't something that I want my group associated with. It may be fine for others, and that's their choice, but there are so many other fun themes out there that are not nearly as controversial so we really don't need this at my house. Thanks everyone for your input-it is really appreciated!

Virtual Violet · #40 06-09-2002, 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by phikappapsiman

Thank You, Virtual Violet, and everyone who has commented either for or against such a party. I realize that what Violet says is what I felt for myself about this party, and it isn't something that I want my group associated with. It may be fine for others, and that's their choice, but there are so many other fun themes out there that are not nearly as controversial so we really don't need this at my house. Thanks everyone for your input-it is really appreciated!

You're welcome!

counting · #41 06-09-2002, 02:45 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by phikappapsiman
I have to ask this...

I know that some fraternities have a "Pimps and Ho's" party. Some brothers want to bring it up to my chapter to have one, but I think that is it disrespectful, and kinda racist. Am I overreacting???

You are not overreacting??

"Pimps and Hos" party are disrespectful

Because every woman that participates in this party will be consider a ho. That is disrespectful to every woman.

VOTE NO FOR THE PARTY.

RUgreek · #42 06-09-2002, 03:18 PM

Pimps and Ho's is racist? Are you people serious? Get real, I have never heard of this crap before. Ok, since it has a racist connection, care to fill me in on what race you are talking about and what's your proof?

I can see how the title is offensive and shocking, but if it was called something like "Sexy Dress Up Costume Mixer" would there be a difference if people came dressed like pimps and ho's? Damn, I'd think when you join the greek system, some of you would learn to be a little loose and not so conservative. You'll have plenty of time to get old and freaked out like my grandparents...

Drop me an invite for your wine and cheese mixers, ok?

phikappapsiman · #43 06-10-2002, 12:51 AM

First off, I don't need "proof" to have an opinion. But since SOME of you seem to think that by showing repect to others who may be offended by such an event is a sign of conservatism, and not respect, I will try to explain my point of view.

How is a "pimps and hos party" racist? Well, I can ONLY SPEAK FOR ME, as to how I can see it as being racist. As an African-American male, I do not find that portraying a Pimp is anything that I consider either entertaining or fun. To me, and JUST TO ME, the racial connotations that go with being a pimp are not any that I see as positive. Maybe other ethnic groups see it as no big deal, but that is one sterotype that I don't need to enact. I have yet to see a Pimp portrayed in the media or in Hollywood as anything but an African-American male without any redeeming qualities, so yes, I do find it disrespectful, racist, and not needed. Who knows? Maybe there are White pimps, Asian pimps, Hispanic pimps, whatever out there, but I have yet to see one (except for Heidi Fleiss, and I guess you couldn't really call her a pimp). Am I being oversensitive? Perhaps. But it is not a matter of being politically correct-it's a matter of pride and self-respect. As for ho's- I wouldn't want my wife or girlfriend or daughter or sister dressing like a ho at any time. Again, this is just my opinion...If others feel that their organization should do it, and nothing is wrong with it- fine, that is their choice. I only hope that if other individuals or groups on their campus found out about it, that person or group would at least have the courage to call them on it to have them explain how such an event reflects positively upon greek life.

NewGirl · #44 06-10-2002, 01:08 AM

At Florida State, the law school had a pimps and hoes party at a bar near campus... well, it was all in good fun. But.. other campus groups found out about such as the naacp and other ones.. and it was in the papers.. all of them about this party and everyone got mad. Personally, yes they could be offensive and other ways it could be a good time. i think it depends on how people take it.
-ashley

Peaches-n-Cream · #45 06-10-2002, 01:30 AM

Yes it is disrespectful. I wouldn't do it.