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Old 01-30-2014, 01:00 PM
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A snow storm over three weeks ago, and the roads still aren't right. That's sad. At least some of the potholes are covered with snow for the time being.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:24 PM
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Day three and we are starting to get a little stir crazy
Road were still icy this morning but they are clearing up
I think we're all going to lose it if we can't go back to school tomorrow
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:27 PM
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Public schools here already closed for tomorrow. Yes. Day 4.

My kids are in private and I am praying that we are open. No word yet. It's just time to go back.
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:29 PM
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Nobody can drive on ice- northerner or not. I very narrowly missed being in an accident on Tuesday morning because of black ice. It was too cold for the salt to work. A car two cars in front of me on I-75 started spinning. I was able to brake- my ABS kicked in- and steer slightly to the shoulder so I had traction on the nasty icky snow stuff at the side of the road. That car spun all way across three lanes until it hit the cement barrier on the left side of the freeway and it took out 3 other cars (including a pick up truck) on its way. It was so cold (-12) that when it hit the pickup truck, the plastic part of the car that hit shattered- like an explosion- sending parts into the air and scattering everywhere. Not just cracked or crunched- shattered. It was the freakiest thing I ever saw. I was shaking the whole rest of the way to work because the ice would just show up out of nowhere.
That is a northern driving technique that is so helpful. It's harder to do this year, because the snow banks are so high we're driving through tunnels over here...so there often isn't a shoulder.

That plastic story is wild! Like liquid nitrogen!
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Old 01-30-2014, 01:29 PM
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A snow storm over three weeks ago, and the roads still aren't right. That's sad. At least some of the potholes are covered with snow for the time being.
LOL...I've noticed that, too!
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Old 01-30-2014, 10:33 PM
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A snow storm over three weeks ago, and the roads still aren't right. That's sad. At least some of the potholes are covered with snow for the time being.
I didn't catch the "over three weeks ago" part. It has snowed like every other day. It wasn't one snow storm. Saturday when I had to drive my son to Farmington for his college interview, it was white out conditions and the roads were a mess. In the time we ate lunch, we got two inches of snow. Then the winds with that very light fluffy snow- you see the snow blowing over the road and it just glazes right over.

I'd like to know what they use on the roads in those colder states for real. I know salt doesn't work below 20 degree or so. Do they use another chemical of some sort?
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:27 PM
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It is supposed to snow more tonight in Colorado than it has all year. It is predicted to stop at about 3am and then pick up again in time for the morning commute.

So happy I don't live there anymore.
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Old 01-30-2014, 11:28 PM
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I didn't catch the "over three weeks ago" part. It has snowed like every other day. It wasn't one snow storm. Saturday when I had to drive my son to Farmington for his college interview, it was white out conditions and the roads were a mess. In the time we ate lunch, we got two inches of snow. Then the winds with that very light fluffy snow- you see the snow blowing over the road and it just glazes right over.
Right, it did snow every other day, but they won't plow. They wait until it stops snowing, then they plow and salt, and they do a poor job at it when they do (not just in Novi, but all over). When we had that really bad storm, they let it snow all freaking night, and did nothing until the next day. I'm like, really? In Minnesota and North Dakota, when I lived there, and when I go back to visit my mom, and my in-laws, with really bad snow storms, the trucks are out all night. They start salting when the snow starts. Then, the next morning the roads are just water after the plowing. Here, it's left over slush, and that stuff is hard to drive in. I am just so sick of it.

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I'd like to know what they use on the roads in those colder states for real. I know salt doesn't work below 20 degree or so. Do they use another chemical of some sort?
I don't know. I'm guessing, but I think so, because salt trucks in Minnesota carry a darker blue salt. It's so blue that if you have a white car, or lighter color car, it stains, and it's hard to clean off. My mom has that problem every year. Her SUV is silver. I've noticed in Michigan that the salt is either white or a really light blue. I think there's a different between what the two states are using. But I could be wrong.
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Old 01-31-2014, 09:52 AM
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We use straight rock salt. I looked it up and they use magnesium chloride when it's really cold in Minnesota. It costs about three times as much. Since we only get these kinds of crazy winters once in a while, I guess it's not worth them stocking up on the more expensive stuff. It sure is causing us issues this year though.

It is official- with 39.1 inches of snow in January '14, we have broken the record for the snowiest month in Michigan since they started tracking such things.

We're all sick of it. All of our municipalities are also facing huge budget crises because the state reduced their payments to them. At the same time, the state now has a 971 million dollar budget surplus. Go figure. And we suffer, because they're playing politics.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:55 AM
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We use straight rock salt. I looked it up and they use magnesium chloride when it's really cold in Minnesota. It costs about three times as much. Since we only get these kinds of crazy winters once in a while, I guess it's not worth them stocking up on the more expensive stuff. It sure is causing us issues this year though.

It is official- with 39.1 inches of snow in January '14, we have broken the record for the snowiest month in Michigan since they started tracking such things.

We're all sick of it. All of our municipalities are also facing huge budget crises because the state reduced their payments to them. At the same time, the state now has a 971 million dollar budget surplus. Go figure. And we suffer, because they're playing politics.
Well, that explains it. Michigan needs to get with the program, because this is a snowy, cold/icy state during the winter season, so to me, there is no excuse for the roads, parking lots, and sidewalks to be this terrible, several weeks after the fact.

And yep, that's politicians for ya --legal thieves.
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Old 01-31-2014, 06:10 PM
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I'm hitting the grocery store tonight before we get 2-4 more inches of snow tomorrow. I hate grocery shopping anyway, but grocery shopping while it is snowing is a major bummer and a half.

And I'm hearing another really big snow on Wednesday. Make it stop!

ETA: Now they're saying 3-6 inches Saturday. ARG!!!
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Old 01-31-2014, 06:45 PM
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At just about lunch time it was "snowing" little ice pellets, like largish salt crystals, but it had stopped by the end of my lunch hour. And let the havoc ensue! My colleague who went to lunch about an hour and a half later than me said there were accidents EVERYWHERE. I believe a stop at the grocery store for a roast chicken and a bottle of wine (we'll call it A bottle) and hole up for a day or two. I think that gives me an excuse to not go weigh in tomorrow morning. I mean, I have to be SAFE, right?
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Old 01-31-2014, 07:07 PM
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MORE SNOW coming here! In early January, we'd already exceeded our usual total for the entire season. Enough already, polar vortex. Go home!
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:41 PM
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Bumping for Snowpocalypse II. I'm stuck at home for 2 days.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:49 PM
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Aaaand...we're snowed in again too!
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