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10-17-2013, 06:08 PM
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Of that I could see, I counted 4 ladies of color.
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10-17-2013, 10:28 PM
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They're even wearing white! How perfect for new member ceremonies that require white dresses!
I'm interested to see how many non-white girls go through next year and how many of THOSE girls get bids without a giant national spotlight shining on Alabama recruitment.
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I'm interested to see how many APHs try to make connections with minority women and get them to the info sessions for high schoolers, help them find recs, and encourage them to rush.
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10-17-2013, 11:05 PM
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I'm interested to see how many APHs try to make connections with minority women and get them to the info sessions for high schoolers, help them find recs, and encourage them to rush.
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We've already been doing that.
Yes, in Alabama.
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10-18-2013, 06:25 AM
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When organizations (in general) have an abundance of members (not every member but a substantial amount) who believe "we don't seeee raaaaace" and "weeeeee are colorblind unlike those other GLOs..." it makes me wonder....
Why have you supposedly been recruiting racial and ethnic minorities?
Why do (some of) you care about that?
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10-18-2013, 09:16 AM
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When organizations (in general) have an abundance of members (not every member but a substantial amount) who believe "we don't seeee raaaaace" and "weeeeee are colorblind unlike those other GLOs..." it makes me wonder....
Why have you supposedly been recruiting racial and ethnic minorities?
Why do (some of) you care about that?
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Well, I'm not in the South, but I want good women to go through recruitment, and if we limit ourselves to white women, we are going to miss out on a ton of good members.
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10-18-2013, 09:25 AM
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Well, I'm not in the South, but I want good women to go through recruitment, and if we limit ourselves to white women, we are going to miss out on a ton of good members.
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I definitely don't see this as a Southern thing.
Pardon me if I am way off the mark here but if more organizations are making the conscious effort to recruit nonwhites, isn't it a good idea for them to tell their members to quit the "we don't see race" routine (that is a big turnoff to some nonwhites as well as some whites)? I know GLOs technically can't control how members feel and what members say but it does help when members are formally told that intentional efforts to recruit nonwhites means that the members (at large) do see race, ethnicity, and culture and there's nothing wrong with that when both intent and outcome are positive.
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10-18-2013, 11:48 AM
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I think that members are trying to say what DBB just said but don't have the age/experience/verbal faculty to say it.
Re the ADPi picture, I was too freaked out by those screaming hot pink skinnies to bother looking at what race anyone was.
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10-18-2013, 12:02 PM
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10-18-2013, 12:22 PM
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The "I don't see race" thing might even be more northern. But that's the sort of thing that you can tell an 18 year old girl is not cool to say, explain WHY it makes her sound like a doofus, and she will, after a few minutes of embarrassment, get the message and watch what she says in the future. The problem is there is no good way to talk about it without sounding either racist or superior.
That may be why this forum is a good place to hash it all out. We can say something, make a mistake, get corrected, and learn something from the process. All with a certain amount of anonymity.
I still contend that the land between segregation and diversity is tokenism, and there's not much you can do about that if you want to get from A to B. These college girls can be really proud of themselves for pledging a black girl, but if things go well, the result will be that some of these girls will end up with an actual friend who is black. And that's a good thing. She might have been pledged because of her race, but presuming she doesn't have horns, they may actually get to like her over time as a person, not a fill in the blank person. But that doesn't happen over night, and we have to give these girls a bit of a break as they transition into new territory. And if the worst thing that happens is some girls say some less than graceful statements in an attempt to sound worldly, then we should call that a win.
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10-18-2013, 01:39 PM
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Maybe we all need to take the Implicit Association Test (IAT).....
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10-18-2013, 02:23 PM
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Oh yeah!
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10-18-2013, 03:09 PM
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Interesting. I just took the test. I got exactly the result I would have hoped for. I'd like to be all unicorns pooping rainbows about that, but I think my ability to take tests well probably had at least as much play there as my fabulously worldly and evolved opinions.
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10-18-2013, 03:16 PM
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I love those. I always score meh on all of them.
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10-18-2013, 09:43 PM
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I'm also not drinking the Kool-Aid. I can't jump up and down and think that this is wonderful and refreshing. This just seems too.. convenient? I'm not even sure that's the word I'm looking for, but it just feels like, "Hey, look at us.. we gave a bid to a black girl!" or, "If we take a black girl, no one will think that we're racist." It was too.. staged.. set up. Let's face it: a situation was specifically created to bid minorities.
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I would have a hard time joining a sorority that cut me during recruitment then, because they were told they had to pledge a Black(ish) girl, suddenly decides to hand me a bid. I wouldn't want to be where I wasn't really wanted. Still, I hope these ladies fit into their houses and are happy there.
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