Why I Think Explanations Should Be GIven for Deleted Threads

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by carnation

Tallulah's thread was locked because of same-old same-old and AlphaFrog, you claimed to understand why I arranged it as I did. Instead, you're trying to start another pile-on and as you see, lovespink has readily accepted your word as the truth.

I am sick of the lies that have been spouted out over the last TEN years. Were any of you aware that some GCers went to my daughter's school in 2002 and physically tried to interfere in her rush? Were any of you aware that one of the same people went to another GCer's campus (no relation to me) and destroyed her rush? And that that person interfered in a third GCer's rush from home?

When I started Tallulah's thread, I tried to figure a way that I could have a theme and name the 4 groups she'll hopefully be returning to for first invitationals. We do hope she'll have 4 but she may not get 4. I am certainly not saying how many groups are at her school. But--people want to drink the "haterade", as they used to say, and believe that 4 groups were pre-selected as favorites.

Some of you are happily accepting what some push as the truth--that my family and I reject certain sororities as being below us. I would like you to prove that. Some of the people who are touting that as the truth weren't even on GC in 2002, they just believe what someone has told them was true. And it isn't. I have several friends on GC who are members of that group and they know that we respect that sorority.

Let me remind you all that personal attacks are a violation of the TOS. They can get deleted, they can get you banned. Remember that.

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt about your explanation of only listing four groups. Then you locked the thread, which made it pretty clear that you were backpeddling.

Once again, this isn't a personal attack. If you feel there are groups that are below your family, then it's fine. We're not blind enough to think the whole world can hold hands and sing kumbaya. Yes, GCers did get involved in one of your daughter's rushes, and many people here know why. It was an unfortunate circumstance.

[carnation]

Obviously, the thread was locked because someone decided to start nastiness with a snide remark. And it wasn't only a snide remark; she hoped to start the ten-year-old fight again.

Although she's not quite my age, she's far too old to start crap.

I'm not backpedaling and I love the names of my 4 groups.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by carnation

Obviously, the thread was locked because someone decided to start nastiness with a snide remark. And it wasn't only a snide remark; she hoped to start the ten-year-old fight again.

Although she's not quite my age, she's far too old to start crap.

Oooooooohhhhhh please. If we closed every rush thread at the first snarky remark that forum would be nothing but a graveyard of locked threads.

And if we want to discuss personal attacks and acting like a ten year old, I'll bring you a mirror.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Oooooooohhhhhh please. If we closed every rush thread at the first snarky remark that forum would be nothing but a graveyard of locked threads.

And if we want to discuss personal attacks and acting like a ten year old, I'll bring you a mirror.

Fine. Make sure you look in it first.

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by KillarneyRose

One more reply then I promise I'll duck out of this thread and let you all play.

Iota Man, a poster isn't generally banned until a consensus is reached that he or she has, basically, turned the bend to crazytown. If that poster wants to come back and conducts himself/herself in a civil and reasonable manner and abstains from personal attacks, he or she is welcome to rejoin. As far as I know the IP address hasn't been flagged.

Flagging an IP address doesn't make sense, because IP addresses change all the time. So y'all (as moderators) come to an agreement that somebody has crossed the line? Do y'all ever send warnings to the user? Did y'all send one to DrPhil, because y'all didn't send me shit before coming to agreement to ban me.

With the explanation part of the discussion. I don't think a mod should have to give an explanation of why a thread was deleted because that just opens up room for more debate. Close the shit and be done with it, but at the same time don't sit up here and ban a mofo without giving that username a warning via PM.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by carnation

Fine. Make sure you look in it first.

Wow. Totally didn't see that one coming. Good show, old bird.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt about your explanation of only listing four groups. Then you locked the thread, which made it pretty clear that you were backpeddling.

Clear to whom? I would say that Carnation has the most Panhellenically-minded family of anyone on this forum.

I personally saw the locking as "I've got the groundwork for the story started & I don't want to hear a bunch of shizz from people until I can tell the whole story after the fact".

She explained her reasoning for listing 4 groups...why can't anyone take that at face value?

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Iota Man

Flagging an IP address doesn't make sense, because IP addresses change all the time. So y'all (as moderators) come to an agreement that somebody has crossed the line? Do y'all ever send warnings to the user? Did y'all send one to DrPhil, because y'all didn't send me shit before coming to agreement to ban me.

With the explanation part of the discussion. I don't think a mod should have to give an explanation of why a thread was deleted because that just opens up room for more debate. Close the shit and be done with it, but at the same time don't sit up here and ban a mofo without giving that username a warning via PM.

You might have deserved a warning, but DrPhil didn't need one.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Clear to whom? I would say that Carnation has the most Panhellenically-minded family of anyone on this forum.

I personally saw the locking as "I've got the groundwork for the story started & I don't want to hear a bunch of shizz from people until I can tell the whole story after the fact".

She explained her reasoning for listing 4 groups...why can't anyone take that at face value?

Clear to those of us who know what some of us know.

And she knows better than to start a rush thread that early if she doesn't want chitchat in it. She's not new.

[Iota Man]

Originally Posted by agzg

You might have deserved a warning, but DrPhil didn't need one.

Maybe she went too far, maybe she didn't. Neiter you or I know all the facts. If she didn't get a warning, she should have, whether you feel she needed one or not.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Clear to whom? I would say that Carnation has the most Panhellenically-minded family of anyone on this forum.

I personally saw the locking as "I've got the groundwork for the story started & I don't want to hear a bunch of shizz from people until I can tell the whole story after the fact".

She explained her reasoning for listing 4 groups...why can't anyone take that at face value?

There is a back story/rumors that people have been tossing around for years that you may not be privy to. That being said, I don't think carnation meant anything by her list of made up names. People will read into it what they will. I'm not surprised the thread was closed before it turned into a epic trainwreck.

Originally Posted by agzg

You might have deserved a warning, but DrPhil didn't need one.

Agreed. Jesus flipping the bird was her swansong.

[carnation]

What you KNOW? Okay, prove it, AlphaFrog. you weren't there. I have witnesses who were. You pm me with every ounce of proof you have.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by carnation

What you KNOW? Okay, prove it, AlphaFrog. you weren't there. I have witnesses who were. You pm me with every ounce of proof you have.

I'd really super love it if you guys could take this to PM.

Originally Posted by Iota Man

Maybe she went too far, maybe she didn't. Neiter you or I know all the facts. If she didn't get a warning, she should have, whether you feel she needed one or not.

No, we don't know all the facts. But DrPhil did know that what she did (posting multiple iterations of the same thread with the same title, with pictures of people or things flipping the bird) was against the TOS. She was smart enough to know how to get banned. When you were banned a few times I'm not sure you knew why or whether or not what you did was against the TOS (I can't remember the circumstances anymore) - but DrPhil's was pretty clearly and intentionally against it.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt about your explanation of only listing four groups. Then you locked the thread, which made it pretty clear that you were backpeddling.

Once again, this isn't a personal attack. If you feel there are groups that are below your family, then it's fine. We're not blind enough to think the whole world can hold hands and sing kumbaya. Yes, GCers did get involved in one of your daughter's rushes, and many people here know why. It was an unfortunate circumstance.

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Clear to those of us who know what some of us know.

Gee that's clear...

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

And she knows better than to start a rush thread that early if she doesn't want chitchat in it. She's not new.

I'm not new either, so I get what you're saying. But she has the power to lock it if she so chooses. Become a mod if you want the same power - don't be jealous or mean that she has the ability to if she wants...

[agzg]

Originally Posted by shirley1929

Become a mod if you want the same power - don't be jealous or mean that she has the ability to if she wants...

It's not about that.