Transferring from a small college to a state school. Am I still considered a brother?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by das343

I hope the FIJI over at my state school isn't as bad as the jerkoffs on this message board.

I hope your attitude in real life isn't anything like your attitude in this thread, because the attitude you've shown here is the reason you're getting the kind of responses you're getting.

[das343]

There's nothing wrong with my attitude. I disagree with FIJIs policy that it's up to the chapter to decide to let a brother in.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by das343

Not bullshit at all actually. Most of my friends are in fraternities at my state school.

And yes, I did initiate. That's why I said I completed the pledge process.

I swear, everyone is now just trying to pick at every little thing they can just for the sake of attacking me. I hope the FIJI over at my state school isn't as bad as the jerkoffs on this message board.

Best of luck with all that. Thanks for stopping by.

[shirley1929]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

And by funny, I mean sad.

FTW - By far the best part of this thread! The rest is

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by das343

There's nothing wrong with my attitude.

Really?

Originally Posted by das343

Honestly, I will be pissed if it's up to the chapter to decide whether I should be let in or not. That's not what Greek Life is about. Once a brother, always a brother and if they don't let me in, then they don't know what brotherhood is.

Originally Posted by das343

Helping? Volunteering? I did that stuff when I was a brother at my old school, why should I take time out of my summer to help out now just to "prove" myself as a brother??

I'm all for volunteer work and such during the school year and other activities associated with the fraternity, but I don't understand what I have to prove. I went through the same process as every other FIJI and became a brother. What do I have to prove?

Honestly, I'll be insulted if they reject me, because that's not what FIJI is about.

Originally Posted by das343

Such horse****. Who are they to say I'll fit in? Is this high school again? I got bids to 4 different fraternities on my campus, each one with a different stereotype. They included: the rich kids, the bros, animal house/the stoners/football players (FIJI), and the nerds/intellectuals.

. . . .

I never said I don't want to volunteer. I said I don't need to waste my summer proving myself to the chapter at my new school, that's what the school year is for.

Originally Posted by das343

We need less people like you in Greek Life.

You've come across like an entitled brat in this thread. An experienced fraternity alumnus suggested you contact the new chapter and see if they -- as many chapters do -- have anything going on in the summer you could help with, or at least attend. Why? Because it can be a great opportunity to get to know them (and for them to get to know you) before school starts. If your work schedule makes that impossible, fine -- say that your work schedule makes that impossible. Don't say you don't need to waste your summer because you shouldn't have to prove anything to the guys whose chapter you'd like to join.

If you think it's a bad policy, that's fine too. I'm sure FIJI has avenues for you to try get the policy changed. But in the meantime, it's the policy you have to live with and operate in, and you should anticipate the possibility the members of the chapter you want to transfer into -- who if they're at a large school, may get more transfer requests than they'd like -- just might think it's a good policy.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Methinks this person has already been turned down, and now wants to smear FIJI.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by das343

There's nothing wrong with my attitude. I disagree with FIJIs policy that it's up to the chapter to decide to let a brother in.

On the off chance that you are for real, I'm sure there are other FIJI policies you disagree with. but guess what....you have to live with them unless you want to turn in your badge...which might not be a bad idea.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Methinks this person has already been turned down, and now wants to smear FIJI.

He certainly came across that way, didn't he? It reminded me of the character Bulldog on the Frasier show. Whenever he couldn't find something, he would immediately start ranting and raving screaming "This stinks, this is total BS" ; anyway, this is what I think of when I read the OP's posts.

[exlurker]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Well, I think I've gotten the daily recommended allowance of irony for today.


Meanwhile, it took me about two minutes to find FIJI's affiliation (transfer) protocol on the FIJI website. Prepare to be pissed, because apparently your fraternity -- like almost ever other fraternity and sorority I've even known anything about -- does not believe that Greek Life is about denying a chapter the right to choose its own members and forcing it to take members it doesn't believe will fit in. Brotherhood does not entail a right to be a member of any chapter.

MysticCat, in case I need to use the phrase that I put in bold face -- and I have a feeling it will come in handy some time -- may I reuse? It's short, to the point, and demonstrates alliteration.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

QFP.

You are a waste of ritual, letters, and bids.

Holy shit this is the best insult I've ever heard.

[jazing]

Originally Posted by das343

There's nothing wrong with my attitude. I disagree with FIJIs policy that it's up to the chapter to decide to let a brother in.

We do the same thing. I would hope every organization has this. It helps chapters keep out risk management issue brothers or brothers that left on a bad standing (owing dues to the local chapter, that type of thing). You have to remember Greek Life at your old University is different at the new University. Traditions will be different and chapter culture will be different. The chapter there will need to accept someone who carries a different culture with them.

Perhaps at your owl chapter a lot of the pledge process went under the rug (as in you did some stuff you would never tell others) and this new chapter doesn't do that. Bringing you in where this was the norm could harm the chapter as a whole if you gain enough power to bring your culture over to the new chapter and make it the new culture.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by jazing

We do the same thing. I would hope every organization has this. It helps chapters keep out risk management issue brothers or brothers that left on a bad standing (owing dues to the local chapter, that type of thing). You have to remember Greek Life at your old University is different at the new University. Traditions will be different and chapter culture will be different. The chapter there will need to accept someone who carries a different culture with them.

Perhaps at your owl chapter a lot of the pledge process went under the rug (as in you did some stuff you would never tell others) and this new chapter doesn't do that. Bringing you in where this was the norm could harm the chapter as a whole if you gain enough power to bring your culture over to the new chapter and make it the new culture.

Although I don't agree with everything in this post, I do agree that if your chapter is on the fringes and you bring your traditions with you, it is more likely the second chapter will be adversely affected.

Every organization has untouchable chapters. If your chapter doesn't have the same cachet, it is you that will be made example of for the very same traditions.

I've seen it.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by exlurker

MysticCat, in case I need to use the phrase that I put in bold face -- and I have a feeling it will come in handy some time -- may I reuse? It's short, to the point, and demonstrates alliteration.

By all means, feel free.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Also, you seem to be misunderstanding what brotherhood is. You are not going to lose your status as a Brother. Instead, you will just go to alumni status a little early.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Holy shit this is the best insult I've ever heard.

snap, snap, snap! and a loud Amen!